Big Brown WOW!!!!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ELA

He wasn't surrounded by 2 BC winners, and so on -- but he won a very good race. However, let's keep in mind that a G1 turf race is very different from what we saw yesterday -- very different!

Come on now.

Red Rocks and Better Talk Now might both be one-time Breeders Cup Turf winners - but they are completely not that much horse anymore.

I believe Better Talk Now was just off the board in a race won by the mediocre Champs Elyseeys. Red Rocks went off at 98/1 odds in the Hong Kong Vase with Dettori up - and was soundly beaten in the Coronation in his final Euro start.

They aren't exactly Manilla and Theatrical.

Am I the only one who thought Sudan ran the best race of anyone in the Man O' War?

He got hounded by a David Cohen rabbit through 47.60 and 1:11.80 fractions in an 11 furlong marathon on the Belmont Inner turf and was beaten only three 3 lengths at the end. It's not like the race was run under handicap conditions either - and he was getting 13 pounds in a marathon. Red Rocks and Curlin both got in at 116lbs as neither had a graded stake win on turf this year.