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Old 08-20-2006, 08:07 PM
sumitas sumitas is offline
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the logic of the NYRA argument is comprehensible. non-profit means shareholders do not factor and more money can therefor go to purses and breeding incentives. and the NYRA has done all this without the benefit of slots.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:09 PM
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the logic of the NYRA argument is comprehensible. non-profit means shareholders do not factor and more money can therefor go to purses and breeding incentives. and the NYRA has done all this without the benefit of slots.
Uh-huh ... and if non-profitism really worked that well ...

... the Soviet Union would be the world's greatest economy.

Sheeeesh !!!
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:14 PM
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the logic of the NYRA argument is comprehensible. non-profit means shareholders do not factor and more money can therefor go to purses and breeding incentives. and the NYRA has done all this without the benefit of slots.
Sumitas, if you keep using logic and common sense you are gonna really have these folks up in arms. Don't you know that?
Ask the horseman down in Gulfstream this past winter who couldnt even get Gulf to write allowance races how they like for profit racing. Better yet, make you attend the CD claiming festival this upcoming September.
Bold, you are much more intelligent than the nonsense you just posted. yeah, Dle Mar's MSW's are high. But thats not fair. You have to factor in Hollywood's and Sa's as well. You also insult your own intelligence by only citing MSW's, Hell Bold, they write 6 cheap claimers a day!!! Barely an allowance race to be had. Spa's purses day in and day out blow del Mar's away. Wanna take a look at tomorrow's purses averages at both tracks? I know you don't wanna do that, because i haven't even looked yet but will go "all in" on a bet that Spas purses tomorrow dwarf Del Mar's on an average per race comparison. How about a blind "all in"? I will look now.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:18 PM
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8/21
Del Mar- 301,000 in purses, 8 races, average purse 37,625
Saratoga- 415,000 in purses, 9 races, average purse 46,111
The winner, and STILL undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, the NYRA!!!
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:21 PM
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8/21
Del Mar- 301,000 in purses, 8 races, average purse 37,625
Saratoga- 415,000 in purses, 9 races, average purse 46,111
The winner, and STILL undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, the NYRA!!!
But seriously ...

... do you really think that Saratoga purses should only be about 20% higher than Del Mar purses? Given the size and depth and frenzy of the New York thoroughbred market ... versus laid back Southern California?
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:26 PM
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But seriously ...

... do you really think that Saratoga purses should only be about 20% higher than Del Mar purses? Given the size and depth and frenzy of the New York thoroughbred market ... versus laid back Southern California?
What does laid back have to do with anything.
oh, one other thing!!! NYRA made a very wise and good decison to deepen its surface before the meet to show the world that Polytrack isn't the answer to safe racing, a good surface is. To this point I can recall only one possible breakdown that was catastrophic and Im not even sure about that.
The surface has been kind and forgiving, and very safe. Which basically shows that all you need to do is throw down a deeper safer surface over a good cushion and you can save 10 mill on polytrack. Gee, what a shock.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:36 PM
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What does laid back have to do with anything.
oh, one other thing!!! NYRA made a very wise and good decison to deepen its surface before the meet to show the world that Polytrack isn't the answer to safe racing, a good surface is. To this point I can recall only one possible breakdown that was catastrophic and Im not even sure about that.
The surface has been kind and forgiving, and very safe. Which basically shows that all you need to do is throw down a deeper safer surface over a good cushion and you can save 10 mill on polytrack. Gee, what a shock.
Very true ...

... but watch out a couple of years from now for an outbreak of bowed tendons.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:01 PM
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What does laid back have to do with anything.
oh, one other thing!!! NYRA made a very wise and good decison to deepen its surface before the meet to show the world that Polytrack isn't the answer to safe racing, a good surface is. To this point I can recall only one possible breakdown that was catastrophic and Im not even sure about that.
The surface has been kind and forgiving, and very safe. Which basically shows that all you need to do is throw down a deeper safer surface over a good cushion and you can save 10 mill on polytrack. Gee, what a shock.
Oracle I pretty much agree with all you are saying. My freiend carmines horse Ginforthewin broke down on 8/12 and had to be destroyed.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:55 PM
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i'm sorry for the tragic loss, kenny.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:18 PM
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Wanna take a look at tomorrow's purses averages at both tracks? I know you don't wanna do that, because i haven't even looked yet but will go "all in" on a bet that Spas purses tomorrow dwarf Del Mar's on an average per race comparison. How about a blind "all in"? I will look now.
You win ... Del Mar is dark tomorrow ... no purses at all.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:20 PM
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You win ... Del Mar is dark tomorrow ... no purses at all.
Del Mar is not dark, and you may be able to represent this to the average guy, but not to me. I will do Wed's next. I swear i haven't looked yet, wanna go all in on the blind. I will do so. Will look now and I gurantee total victory.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:24 PM
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8/23
Del mar- 376,000 in purses, 8 races, average purse 47,000
Saratoga- 489,000 in purses, 9 races, average purse 54,333 bucks

The author also wishes to note that its not NYRA's fault that Del Mar can't put on 9 race shows daily and should be distributing even HIGHER purses.
In any case, if you wanna go triple or nothing on Thursday's cards when they come out, just lemme know. Lets just say I'm not real worried about it.
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