Lava Man Is The NUTS

Danzig · #1 08-20-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I piss on the older division this year. It's absolutely horrible.

i've seen FAR worse than the likes of lava man and invasor. but you can be a hater if you want to. i think it's pretty good.

you must be a flower alley fan?

#2 08-20-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i've seen FAR worse than the likes of lava man and invasor. but you can be a hater if you want to. i think it's pretty good.

you must be a flower alley fan?

I'm a fan of increasing the purses of the big races to entice the owners to leave some of the real champions in the game a little longer. It's hard to get excited over a claimer and a South American champ dominating the older division.

Danzig · #3 08-20-2006, 07:25 PM

so a horse that's run for a tag can never be considered good? can never move up, never improve?

and what about paseana, bayakoa? they aren't as good because they were imports?

i think your logic is flawed.

#4 08-20-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

so a horse that's run for a tag can never be considered good? can never move up, never improve?

and what about paseana, bayakoa? they aren't as good because they were imports?

i think your logic is flawed.

What about them? Did they get a sex change that I didn't know about?

Danzig · #5 08-20-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

What about them? Did they get a sex change that I didn't know about?

they were in reference to you knocking invasor for being an import. and they're both in the top 100 horses in the 20th century. but apparently going by what you post, they aren't real champs either.

#6 08-20-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

they were in reference to you knocking invasor for being an import. and they're both in the top 100 horses in the 20th century. but apparently going by what you post, they aren't real champs either.

I'm not going to delve into semantics with you just to prove a point. Feel free to talk as much smack as you want when Lava Man runs in the Classic.

Danzig · #7 08-20-2006, 07:36 PM

to be perfectly honest, at THIS point i'm going with invasor. all i'm saying is don't call lava man a bad horse for what he hasn't done this year. all he has done is win. there's no telling what will happen at churchill. i hope they all get there in one piece and run a fair race. let them sort it out. three pages of arguing here doesn't mean squat compared to reality.

2Hot4TV · #8 08-20-2006, 07:27 PM

LAVA MAN, lets see that is 4 grade 1 wins and 4 million dollar races. Looks pretty good on paper and in the bank.

#9 08-20-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

LAVA MAN, lets see that is 4 grade 1 wins and 4 million dollar races. Looks pretty good on paper and in the bank.

Did you not see his JCGC race last fall, or did you and you are trying to avoid the subject by posting the obvious(and leaving out the horrendous horses he has been beating)

2Hot4TV · #10 08-21-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Did you not see his JCGC race last fall, or did you and you are trying to avoid the subject by posting the obvious(and leaving out the horrendous horses he has been beating)

Yes I saw it and am amazed that they were able to get his foot problems taken care of and get him back in form. Don't be blind, this horse had problems after last years Pacific Classic.

Danzig · #11 08-20-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I'm a fan of increasing the purses of the big races to entice the owners to leave some of the real champions in the game a little longer. It's hard to get excited over a claimer and a South American champ dominating the older division.

and there isn't enough increasing out there...smarty was syndicated for 35 million (for example) what race purse could ever compete with that? none, anywhere. spectacular bid ran and won every race at four, actually a losing proposition for his owners, as the purse money won didn't come close to paying for his insurance premiums for that year.

i can't believe you're saying lava man isn't a real champ. that's crazy. he beat grade one winners today.

#12 08-20-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

and there isn't enough increasing out there...smarty was syndicated for 35 million (for example) what race purse could ever compete with that? none, anywhere. spectacular bid ran and won every race at four, actually a losing proposition for his owners, as the purse money won didn't come close to paying for his insurance premiums for that year.

i can't believe you're saying lava man isn't a real champ. that's crazy. he beat grade one winners today.

I didn't say he isn't a champ. He's just really low on the list of champions. Also I have questions about Doug O'Neill that I will not ask. I'll just let the BC Classic answer them.

chupster2 · #13 08-20-2006, 07:30 PM

What's kind of hard to digest, is whether we recognize it or not, our most veratile horses are usually intact and so subconciously we have them on a ticking clock. He IS a gelding so hopefully he stays sound and we get to see him do all kinds of different things. But it is, I imagine, good to pick a line of thought (with small variations, which they have done) and aim. This year it's the classic. Maybe next year they will concentrate on turf. Stay healthy, Big Boy!

#14 08-20-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i've seen FAR worse than the likes of lava man and invasor. but you can be a hater if you want to. i think it's pretty good.

you must be a flower alley fan?

Very true ...

... this is a below-average year for older horse ... but there have been many worse.

So far ... I give them a 3 on a scale of 10.