9/13 (BEL): Noble Damsel; Matron; Futurity; Gazelle

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think it's fair to say that there isn't a whole lot separating Proud Spell and Music Note. Their races against each other show it. So would you be trying to beat Proud Spell if you swapped her and Music Note on Saturday?

I dont think its fair... Proud Spell is a lot more tactical and Prefers 1 1/8.... Proud Spell would be more of a lock then Music Note. If Indian Blessing were in here, i would give her a chance to wire both of them, is that fair ?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What isn't fair about it? In their first race Proud Spell had trouble and was beat. In the Alabama, Castellano rode like a moron and Proud Spell showed tremendous heart digging in. They are damn close IMO and I'd love to see them hook up again. I'm not convinced Indian Blessing wants any part of 9 furlongs and while she would hold a huge tactical advantage, she wouldn't be on my tickets.

bama was 1 1/4, who has the advantage at that distance, CLEARLY Music Note.... at 1 1/8 proud spell is much much better IMO, and overall is much much better, because she defeated her at 1 1/4

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're impossible. Proud Spell is much, much better?

I think so, i think Music Note is overrated had dead aim on Proud Spell and could not beat her....

Why are you totally tossing out the distance, that is Music Notes best, not Proud Spells, and Proud Spell still beat her.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Overrated? Based on what? She lost by a lip. I'm not tossing out the distance, I just don't know why you think one prefers the other. The results don't back you up.

Music Note does not prefer 1 1/4, are you serious ?
she ran her career best race at 1 1/4
proud spell had never run the distance, and still beat her...
as well as music note being bred to go 1 1/4

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What isn't fair about it? In their first race Proud Spell had trouble and was beat. In the Alabama, Castellano rode like a moron and Proud Spell showed tremendous heart digging in. They are damn close IMO and I'd love to see them hook up again. I'm not convinced Indian Blessing wants any part of 9 furlongs and while she would hold a huge tactical advantage, she wouldn't be on my tickets.

Indian Blessing is a changed horse... you say yourself huge tactical advantage, i dont see how you could leave her off is she was in here, she'd have to be most likely winner going 1 1/8 with no other speed at all, now 1 1/4 is a totally different story again.

[philcski]

On a side note, does anyone ever remember Pletcher sending out a runner that is so hopelessly overmatched (not including the owner-choice Kentucky Derby runners?)

Originally Posted by philcski

On a side note, does anyone ever remember Pletcher sending out a runner that is so hopelessly overmatched (not including the owner-choice Kentucky Derby runners?)

NEVER

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

On a side note, does anyone ever remember Pletcher sending out a runner that is so hopelessly overmatched (not including the owner-choice Kentucky Derby runners?)

Feels like an owner's call.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Awesome I Am fares. Obviously she's highly unlikely to win but I think she is very much the second best horse in the race and could have a decent future.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not off the top of my head, but he owns her and I can't think of an easier spot to get some grade 1 blacktype. It's a longshot, but think about how much more she would be worth if she runs 3rd. As it stands, she's a claimer at best. But, she has nice breeding and could hit the board.

That has to be it. Maybe he figures she could clunk up for 3rd or something... or maybe the racing office begged him to get a 5th in there to offer tri's.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Feels like an owner's call.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Awesome I Am fares. Obviously she's highly unlikely to win but I think she is very much the second best horse in the race and could have a decent future.

He is the owner, which is the strangest thing. I agree on Awesome I Am though, ice cold $8 exacta coming up...

Originally Posted by philcski

That has to be it. Maybe he figures she could clunk up for 3rd or something... or maybe the racing office begged him to get a 5th in there to offer tri's.



He is the owner, which is the strangest thing. I agree on Awesome I Am though, ice cold $8 exacta coming up...

more then 8....
$12 at least

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hrfan

more then 8....
$12 at least

Shhhhh....the adults are talking now.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Shhhhh....the adults are talking now.

I laughed

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hrfan

more then 8....
$12 at least

Maybe, because Country Star will get a little bit of play. Not much more than that. There's only 20 possible exactas in a 5 horse field and Music Note will be included in 95% of the money on them.

Originally Posted by philcski

Maybe, because Country Star will get a little bit of play. Not much more than that. There's only 20 possible exactas in a 5 horse field and Music Note will be included in 95% of the money on them.

yea, i just have to think that frankel will be bet hard.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

He is the owner...

Along with Steve Young.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Is that the former trainer or football player?

Yes.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Both?

No.