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Old 09-11-2008, 07:44 AM
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Recent butcher jobs by DWL:

Folklore
Pegasus Wind

Both of these horses went into their 1st races off lengthy layoffs with I believe only 3 workouts, and neither ran after their comebacks.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:11 AM
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Recent butcher jobs by DWL:

Folklore
Pegasus Wind

Both of these horses went into their 1st races off lengthy layoffs with I believe only 3 workouts, and neither ran after their comebacks.
So he "butchered" them by training them to lightly?

Is Todd a butcher because horses like Ravel, Monba and others have not lived up to pedigree and expectation? What about Mott? Riley Tucker was named for Mott's son, so clearly there was the expectation that he'd be an outstanding colt. McLaughlin? He won the Belmont with Jazil who never won again. Butcher job or just a slowish colt who met the right (even slower) bunch at what is today a freakish distance?

Or are these good horsemen with horses that didn't live up to expectations for various reasons?

Of the 3 "Legends" trainers, IMO, Nick has the best record of maximizing horses with "mid level" valuation, as determined by sale price. Yet even Nick has seen several of his good babies from the last few years failed to train on. That said, several of these are still around and running but for other trainers in more modest races. (Irish Majesty comes to mind.) A few years ago a partnership I'm connected to claimed a horse from Asmussen that he had taken from LaPenta/Zito. He was G1 placed at two and when he looked like he wasn't going to be a graded winner at 3 he was dropped in for a tag. He win 2 allowance races for the partnership and ran until he was 6, when a neck injury of all things, ended his career. It's a testament to Zito's training style that so many of his former "potential" starts are still knocking around at 6 or over and winning races.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:17 AM
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He butchered them by racing them in big races off layoffs when they weren't in shape to handle it. Just my opinion, of course. I've never trained a horse.
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