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Old 09-10-2008, 08:32 AM
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karl Rove is going to go down some day as the greatest spin doctor of all time. The fact that he could sell Bush as some sort of military leader against a guy who actually served in combat is amazing. Now, they are actually selling McCain as some sort of "agent of change" LOL. Amazing.

And this forum is proof that there are people out there that actually bite on it.

Rove's confidence in the average man's supidity is justified i would say.
worked with clinton vs dole.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:35 AM
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worked with clinton vs dole.
Thats news. Did they sell Clinton as a military leader and discredit Dole's service?
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:37 AM
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Furthermore you are acting as if that was some kind of polarizng argument. Was that even a contest? Clinton crushed him.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:40 AM
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Furthermore you are acting as if that was some kind of polarizng argument. Was that even a contest? Clinton crushed him.

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i'm not acting as if it was anything, i'm just saying in every contest you have each side pointing the same fingers, using the same arguments, as in the past. clinton had no military experience, and dole did. then you had bush with only national guard experience, and kerry who served in vietnam.
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i'm not acting as if it was anything, i'm just saying in every contest you have each side pointing the same fingers, using the same arguments, as in the past. clinton had no military experience, and dole did. then you had bush with only national guard experience, and kerry who served in vietnam.
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Clinton left it off of the table though. Rove tactics brings it to the front and turns it.
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Thats news. Did they sell Clinton as a military leader and discredit Dole's service?
clinton was mentioned as having commander in chief experience since he was head of the arkansas national guard. and dole was a military hero. it's a similar situation, as was clinton being accused of being too young, not having enough foreign policy experience, etc. the parallels are there. and clinton for the most part did just fine, so i'd say that the lack of military experience itself is not a really good argument as to whether you could be a good president or not. certainly didn't make grant a good president.
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clinton was mentioned as having commander in chief experience since he was head of the arkansas national guard. and dole was a military hero. it's a similar situation, as was clinton being accused of being too young, not having enough foreign policy experience, etc. the parallels are there. and clinton for the most part did just fine, so i'd say that the lack of military experience itself is not a really good argument as to whether you could be a good president or not. certainly didn't make grant a good president.
Im sorry i think you misunderstood the point.

Rove's tactics attempted to discredit the bravery and patriotism of a guy that had served in combat and prop up Bush as some sort of defender of the country even though he dodged the draft.

How did that have anything to do with Clinton's tactics vs. Dole? I fail to see the connection.
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