what a sharpie

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Isn't it obvious how she feels about creationism? Sorry, to me, thats nutty.

to me too, i'm an atheist! but to me its not anywhere near the most important aspect of what makes a good leader.

does Obamas church teach something other than creationism? or any other candidate past or present. how many come out and say I don't believe in creationism?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not many, which is a whole other issue. And Obama has his issues with Reverend Wright. I know. He isn't my ideal candidate, but to me, he's the lesser of two evils, which scares me.

I haven't decided who is the lesser of two evils yet, but it infuriates me to have to vote like that

Originally Posted by GPK

I haven't decided who is the lesser of two evils yet, but it infuriates me to have to vote like that

We have much better choices this election.
Much.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

We have much better choices this election.
Much.

better than bush/gore, bush/kerry. but that's not saying much.

Originally Posted by Danzig

better than bush/gore, bush/kerry. but that's not saying much.

We might get 70% of the registered voters.
That says a hell of a lot. Close to an all-time high
since figures have been accurately taken.

When was the last time 70% showed up at the polls?
We hear the same thing every damn year. Bad choices.
I disagree with the vehemence of a ... of a...
ill-tempered marmot.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GPK

I haven't decided who is the lesser of two evils yet, but it infuriates me to have to vote like that

what is the saying kev...the lesser of two evils is still evil?

[ArlJim78]

mr. smooth put his foot in his mouth again today, with a reference to "putting lipstick on a pig". He will deny it had anything to do with Palin, but whatever he says the audience got it and so will everyone else.

For a guy that ran a great primary campaign, he has turned into a walking disaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Come on man. You're a lot smarter than this. It has nothing to do with Palin. It's a figure of speech. Only people that view Palin as a pig will take like that. Wait....

you're so wrong, it doesn't matter if its a figure of speech, it has a different context at the moment that anyone can understand, I'm sure you got it.
the only thing it does is take him further off his message, he'll be responding tomorrow all day long in the news cycle to this comment, all his talking heads will be deflecting it in the media. it simply did not look presidential and showed horrible judgement. no one believes me but this is total amatuer hour and he is in freefall and if he is not careful this race could be all over but the shouting way earlier than even I predicted.

[dalakhani]

Wager?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

you're so wrong, it doesn't matter if its a figure of speech, it has a different context at the moment that anyone can understand, I'm sure you got it.
the only thing it does is take him further off his message, he'll be responding tomorrow all day long in the news cycle to this comment, all his talking heads will be deflecting it in the media. it simply did not look presidential and showed horrible judgement. no one believes me but this is total amatuer hour and he is in freefall and if he is not careful this race could be all over but the shouting way earlier than even I predicted.

you may be right that this issue will take everyone off the topic at hand. my homepage is set up with, among other things, links to ap news. only three links, but guess what one of them was this morning? when i saw your post, i went back to get that link, and read the story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26630854/

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

no one believes me but

For some reason I feel like a lot of your sentences in future political discussions will start like this.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

For some reason I feel like a lot of your sentences in future political discussions will start like this.

is that all you have, a not so deft change of topic?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This is the swift boat stuff Part Deux.

It's dirty, it was expected, but like McCain's choice of Palin, stinks of desperation. Amateur hour is acting and making this a big deal. So now that we've resorted to yet another election like this, I can only imagine what else the good ol' boys have up their sleeve.

Bring out the dates with White Women. That's gunna be what they use if they starting getting behind, and need a miracle.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm just surprised that seemingly intelligent people not only view this as something important, but also don't see it for what it really is.

It's late in the process. They are starting to really pick at each other now. Just be glad that EX-SENATOR GEORGE guy isn't involved. That guy did some weird stuff in the 70's. I can't believe somebody knew he did that stuff, and waited that many years to cough it up.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm just surprised that seemingly intelligent people not only view this as something important, but also don't see it for what it really is.

operative word

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This is the swift boat stuff Part Deux.

It's dirty, it was expected, but like McCain's choice of Palin, stinks of desperation. Amateur hour is acting like and making it a big deal. So now that we've resorted to yet another election like this, I can only imagine what else the good ol' boys have up their sleeve.

how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

This was not a mistake, or "innocent oversight." He actually was communicating perfectly here. That's what he thinks about McCain's Economic plan. He thinks it's a slightly enhanced version of the last 8 years(Pig with Lipstick.)

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish

You can put lipstick on a dog's a$$hole - but it's still an ArlJim political post.

You can wrap a dead buzzard in paper - but it still stinks like an ArlJim political post that was submitted by Balletto's taint.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

Hey I'm with you on the conservative side... but what Obama said was not a big deal.. he took it from McCain actually, who has used the phrase twice while relating it to Liberal Policies.

Also.. the whole "my muslim faith" comment was taken greatly out of context if you read the transcript.. I could see how he said it accidently. The dude is a Christian.. and his wacky church and Palins wacky church should cross each other out!

But hey.. if it helps McCain win the election then Take it out of Context!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

i think mccain had also used the lipstick on a pig line...but that was before palin used the lipstick on a pit bull reference. obama probably knew it would bring about the reaction he got from his audience, but who cares? it has nothing to do with policy, domestic or foreign.
i made myself listen a bit to some of the conservative radio, a few mins of rush and then sean. one thing hannity said made me laugh. something about attacking a woman. wait a minute. this guy was one who was accusing others of sexism, but isn't that comment the same thing? is she a pol who happens to be a woman, or a woman who's running for an office but is off limits because she's a woman? ridiculous, it's off topic, and tells you nothing about what either candidate will do as president.
and of course if palin/mccain make a mistake, obama will pounce on it. it always cracks me up when either side takes on the role of victim.