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[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by smartyalex

when did I ever mentioned the word "allowed"? I was asked a hypothetical question and simply provided my opinion. I love it when "Serling" states his opinion on this board and 95% of those posting here think he is the Derby Trail Messiah and can't question his opinions.

Also, I'm guessing Pure Clans trip today wasn't questionable its self and may have also affected her outcome on todays race?

I certainly dont think anyone is a "messiah" of any kind although in this case i wish i did because i then would have cashed today on this race. Instead, i am holding worthless paper with the 1 on top.

I brought this topic back up because I remembered it from a few weeks ago. If Pure Clan would have won, someone would most likely have pulled this topic back up and asked BTW if he still felt Backseat Rhythm was better than Pure Clan. I thought it only fair to bring it back up as I originally disagreed with him.

Going into today i didnt even think it was close between the two horses. Obviously I was wrong.

To say that Backseat Rhythm shouldnt at least take a shot at the BC really doesnt make much sense to me unless there is some crazy freak euro coming over. If Pure Clan is going to be the favorite, i think that they would be foolish not to at least give it a shot.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I actually think he/she is right about the distance of the race when it's at Santa Anita. First time for everything.....

It's 1 3/8 according the the BC website. . .

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I actually think he/she is right about the distance of the race when it's at Santa Anita. First time for everything.....

Not according to the BC website.


http://www.breederscup.com/division....ionname=fmturf


This person is still an idiot.



Dahoss dont ever doubt me.........

[smartyalex]

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/bre...aspx?id=fmturf

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by smartyalex

I get it.....you're using the same sarcasm as mentioned earlier in this post. Pure Clan will embarass Backseat Rhythm in the Filly Mare Turf should they be that idiotic enough to go (you do know it's 1 1/4 miles....and remember the outcome last time they met at that distance?)

Backseat Rhythm will most likely go to the QE II and not the BC. Pure Clan will probably get another shot at her there. Pure Clan wasn't best today but perhaps Keeneland will be another story.

It was nice to see the IEAH people congratulate Paul Pompa, who owns Backseat Rhythm, immediately after today's race. It seems they surpassed the petty jealousy your post exuded. But, maybe I just read it wrong.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by smartyalex

when did I ever mentioned the word "allowed"? I was asked a hypothetical question and simply provided my opinion. I love it when "Serling" states his opinion on this board and 95% of those posting here think he is the Derby Trail Messiah and can't question his opinions.

Also, I'm guessing most of you who witnessed the questionable trip Pure Clan had to overcome today had no consequences on the outcome of todays race.

What am I missing? I stated a couple of weeks ago that I thought Backseat Rhythm was possibly better than Pure Clan. They met today, Pure Clan was even money to Backseat Rhythm's virtual 5:1, and Backseat Rhythm won. No big deal....I'm certainly wrong much more often than I'm right. However, how does that justify you taking a cheap shot at me?

And, furthermore, why is my name in quotes? I mean, I can take the cheap shots, but not the misuse of punctuation.

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Going into today i didnt even think it was close between the two horses. Obviously I was wrong.

....wow, her getting beat today by half a length has convinced you of who is a better horse? Even though last out we beat BR by 5 1/4? Another 1/16 today and PC would have drawn away past her. Even if Pure clan had to readjust back to her correct lead off the brush.

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What am I missing? I stated a couple of weeks ago that I thought Backseat Rhythm was possibly better than Pure Clan. They met today, Pure Clan was even money to Backseat Rhythm's virtual 5:1, and Backseat Rhythm won. No big deal....I'm certainly wrong much more often than I'm right. However, how does that justify you taking a cheap shot at me?

And, furthermore, why is my name in quotes? I mean, I can take the cheap shots, but not the misuse of punctuation.

I appologize...it was the heat of the moment. I need a refresher course on a lot of my proper punctuation usage.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by smartyalex

I appologize...it was the heat of the moment. I need a refresher course on a lot of my proper punctuation usage.

No problem.

But, by the way, being the Derby Trail Messiah is not exactly a compliment. I probably deserve the moniker, but it's kind of like being the smartest kid in the.......well, you know.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No problem.

But, by the way, being the Derby Trail Messiah is not exactly a compliment. I probably deserve the moniker, but it's kind of like being the smartest kid in the.......well, you know.

and modest too....

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and modest too....

I meant I deserve the insult. But you knew that.

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Dude, this isn't going well for you. I suggest stepping away from the computer. What she was saying was going into today she thought your filly was much better. Considering BR beat your filly today, she's saying she was wrong. Even you would have to admit, if one is better than the other, it's not by much.

Touché. I agree with your last sentence 100%. Sometimes you let your emotions gets a little defensive after a loss like today. I meant no hard feelings this evening, just letting out some frustration

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Cool man, I definitely understand. Good luck with your filly down the road, she's certainly a nice one. Any plans to get back to the dirt?

Thank you! Their pretty convinced she's where she needs to be. She's been moving forward from each of her previous turf races (until today of coarse). However, We feel she can grind it out much better on the turf rather than on the dirt.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I meant I deserve the insult. But you knew that.

lol
just having a bit o' fun with ya btw! or should i say, messiah??

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This is kind of weird. The Breeders Cup website says 1 3/8 and the link just posted says it's 1 1/4 and then further down the page it says the race is 1 5/16. Only in this game....

Retards manning the website I think, you are right it was a mile and a quarter last time at SA as is tradition anywhere they can run that distance. If they can't they go 11F. I happen to prefer the 10F for the F&M's.

[Indian Charlie]

On a firm turf, Pure Clan will humble Backseat Rhythm next time they meet.

Am I the only person on the planet who saw that race and thought Pure Clan ran only for about 100 yards in the entire race?

I thought for most of the race she was having some difficulty with the turf and expected her to run fifth, especially towards the early and middle parts of the race. I couldn't believe it when suddenly she was in second place at the wire.

[CSC]

Agree alot of the comments above, I don't think there's much to choose between PC & BR, however I think Ariege may turn out the best of the 3 in the long run, like her alot whether it's poly or grass. Certainly she belongs with these.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

Agree alot of the comments above, I don't think there's much to choose between PC & BR, however I think Ariege may turn out the best of the 3 in the long run, like her alot whether it's poly or grass. Certainly she belongs with these.

I think she's a very nice horse but its tough to imagine that distance is not a problem for this filly. She looks to be at her best at a mile and if I were in the IEAH camp I'd look to shorten her up and go to the F&M Sprint. She's obviously proven synthetics are no issue.

NT

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think she's a very nice horse but its tough to imagine that distance is not a problem for this filly. She looks to be at her best at a mile and if I were in the IEAH camp I'd look to shorten her up and go to the F&M Sprint. She's obviously proven synthetics are no issue.

NT

That's a question mark, what gives her a chance is she is out of Kostroma, a very good filly that won the Beverley D. No doubt about her versatility though and she does own a grade 1 already.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think she's a very nice horse but its tough to imagine that distance is not a problem for this filly. She looks to be at her best at a mile and if I were in the IEAH camp I'd look to shorten her up and go to the F&M Sprint. She's obviously proven synthetics are no issue.
NT

At first glance, this appears to be uncontroversial. Clearly, she's very talented at up to a mile; probably as good as any filly in the country.

Yet, if you go back and watch yesterday's race, I believe you'd agree that pretty much no filly, including Pure Clan and Backseat Rhythm, would've been able to win with the trip that Ariege got. The way the race played out, she just provided one additional move in a last move race. A more patient ride has her moving WITH rather than before BR and I'm not so sure that BR would've gotten the best of it (even with all the EXTRA BS that Castellano brings to the table in stretch runs).

There's not much that separates most of these horses --- there's much that separates them in terms of the rides (and setups) they get, however.