mccain's vp

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Aren't Danzig n' PGRDN 2 examples of people that don't hold a strong bond with any party? I guess those are just exceptions to your extremely dumb, lazy, indecisive and fat theory.........The economy card? He is interested in improving the economy, and McCain seems more interested in "victory" in Iraq(seems if you've wasted a trillion dollars n' over 4000 Americans, then I don't understand how that will ever be a "victory.") When you get a victory, don't you defeat a foe? Soon as we leave, they will fight each other. Seems that those in favor of that war think the people there want Democracy. They don't. So, really a victory(a lasting Democracy in the Middle East) there is impossible.Whether we leave now, or in 2 years(and another 1000 lost Americans,) these people are gunna have a war for control of this s-h-i-t hole. The only way to keep that place a Democracy is to stay there and pour more money and lives away. That's exactly what McCain will do(stay there.) He is a stubborn goat, and he will not leave there. Our economy will continue to be savaged by the cost of that war. We will keep losing ground to the E.U. The dollar will continue to lose ground against the Euro and the British Pound. They don't have to throw their money away in Iraq (like we do.) There is no doubt the economy will be better under OBAMA. Simply not wasting the resources we throw away in Iraq gives him the economic edge. The European Countries are beating us economically, and that's not gunna change with McCain/Palin. We may be a bit safer(maybe,) but we are gunna lose more n' more ground (economically.) People need to realize the size of the national debt, and stop throwing the people's money away in a stupid effort to tame savages. All you can do is contain them. Their religion abhors freedom. Stop trying to make them want it(they don't..they never will want that.) If you want Democracy there, then you'll have to stay there(and spend the money n' lives necessary) and impose it on them, because they don't want it. Expensive little experiment. It's like turning saltwater into drinking water(you can do it if you want to pay the high price.)

i'm none of those four things for sure scuds, you have a point. party/politics is one thing, what's best for this country is another.
i have to say the more i listen to conservative talk radio, the more disgusted i get with the conservatives, the republican 'base' and the ultra right. i understand rush limbaugh was dammed unhappy when mccain said he wasn't a party man, as rush believes it's party (as long as it's the republican party) before all. that's insane. both parties actually come up with good ideas on occasion, neither speaks to most citizens, so how can either one always be the right, or best one? depends on the topic i think.
as for imposing democracy, that's the most ironic thing ever. take this democracy or else! and it's true, you can't make people want it, or accept it. we wouldn't want another country coming here and demanding we change our govt, or our way of life, so who are we to do the same?

as for the economy, absolutely it's #1. but what intrigues me in that respect is that obama thinks he can offer more, but he essentially wants to keep bushes tax scheme, while only raising taxes on the rich, and by increasing capital gains taxes. so the debt, the deficit, won't be going anywhere.

inflation is rampant. why? oil and energy are the main reasons why we're having out of control inflation. solving, or working towards solving that problem will help the economy in general. won't solve all the problems, but it's quite a start.
also, highways and such are suffering fund-wise, as tax receipts are down since we're not travelling-so our infrastructure will suffer. both candidates have to have a realistic view of our natural resources and whether it would be in our best interest to start using our own, rather than buying from overseas. i guarantee that opec doesn't want us to drill for more of our own, as they have only one real source of income in that area. we bought from them, and ignored our own potential oil and gas markets because they were cheaper. that's no longer the case.