Fasig Tipton Spa Open Sale

Hey everyone. I've been swamped and havent been around but def missed this place! Im looking over the sales results now and what a great chance to pick up some nice bloodlines for dirt cheap! Although the two fillies that really interested me, 527 and 440, both went for pretty good prices when compared to the sale in general.

Anyone going to the OBS Aug? I think I may be there. My brother is going and im trying to convince him and his friend to go in with me on a filly.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Balletto

Hey everyone. I've been swamped and havent been around but def missed this place! Im looking over the sales results now and what a great chance to pick up some nice bloodlines for dirt cheap! Although the two fillies that really interested me, 527 and 440, both went for pretty good prices when compared to the sale in general.

Anyone going to the OBS Aug? I think I may be there. My brother is going and im trying to convince him and his friend to go in with me on a filly.

Which one? The select or open?

I'm going to the mixed sale in October.

[sumitas]

all the best on all your future endeavors...

jpg you bring up a good point. what about the future breeding ? full disclosure would certainly help in that area.
the 527 ($18k) has a solid family, very nice. overall very nice ped. 440($30K) also very nicely bred tail female to Qurrat al-ain. not seen very often.

[sumitas]

and here's a June article from Ray Paulick about steroids. i happen to agree with Arthur Han**** of Stone Farm about full disclosure and no steroids for horses.
http://opinions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=10142

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

and here's a June article from Ray Paulick about steroids. i happen to agree with Arthur Han**** of Stone Farm about full disclosure and no steroids for horses.
http://opinions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=10142

Sumitas,
Needless to say, I'm in total agreement with you...if only for this reason,
"abuse of steroids in horses can cause negative side effects, including reproductive problems in both males and females. If given to young horses, steroids can cause premature closure of growth plates."
Seems to me that there is some complex testing involved to determine steroid use.
So...in light of the fact that an "honor system" isn't going to work, how do you think an anti-steroid policy can be implemented?

[sumitas]

there probably should be tests for steroids in horses at auction. until then, hopefully the buyers will come to recognize those they can trust. trust meaning, no drugs for the young horses and disclosure of corrective surgery.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

there probably should be tests for steroids in horses at auction. until then, hopefully the buyers will come to recognize those they can trust. trust meaning, no drugs for the young horses and disclosure of corrective surgery.

I sure hope that would work. It's already plenty expensive to bring one to the sales, so a bit more for testing that the consigner has to absorb cuts into the margin, especially if the sale doesn't attract buyers and there are a lot of buy backs (RNA). A good reputation is worth preserving, but it seems that the breeders, unless they're putting out market sires, are going to take it on the chin again.
As far as "corrective surgery", there's another huge expense that the breeder might not be able to recover. It should be disclosed before the sale, and I've seen some that didn't have any surgery that ran like hell anyway.
Storm Cat's come to mind.
To sum it up...I'd say no steroids for young horses. Disclosure of corrective surgery. Despite those good intentions, there will be "cheaters", as in most other things.