8/23 (SAR): Travers; King's Bishop; Baruch; Vic. Ride

[Quiet Chris]

Travers is out.

1. Tale of Ekati, Edgar Prado, 20-1
2. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 8-1
3. Da' Tara, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4. Tizbig, Cornelio Velasquez, 30-1
5. Macho Again, Julien Leparoux, 6-1
6. Cool Coal Man, John Velazquez, 15-1
7. Amped, Jorge Chavez, 30-1
8. Harlem Rocker, Eibar Coa, 4-1
9. Mambo in Seattle, Robby Albarado, 5-1
10. Tres Borrachos, Tyler Baze, 15-1
11. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, 7-2
12. Court Vision, Kent Desormeaux, 12-1

[Gander]

Thanks. I find it completely shocking that this was drawn over an hour ago and still hasnt find its way on to NYRA's website yet.

[TheSpyder]

Too many people sampling the Travers Cooler don't cha know.

Originally Posted by Gander

Thanks. I find it completely shocking that this was drawn over an hour ago and still hasnt find its way on to NYRA's website yet.

[Gander]

Kind of tells you just how open the 3 year old division is (beyond Big Brown) when you see that the 2 favorites are the 2 more unaccomplished horses in here- Harlem and Mambo. You get great odds on many horses who have already captured Grade 1's:

Tale of Ekati, Colonel John, Pyro & Da Tara

Grade 1's just dont have that much meaning anymore.

[ArlJim78]

good race, pretty much every three yo not named Big Brown.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Gander

Kind of tells you just how open the 3 year old division is (beyond Big Brown) when you see that the 2 favorites are the 2 more unaccomplished horses in here- Harlem and Mambo. You get great odds on many horses who have already captured Grade 1's:

Tale of Ekati, Colonel John, Pyro & Da Tara

Grade 1's just dont have that much meaning anymore.

It really just looks like the 3yr olds that competed earlier in the year were not very good. All of these horses won grade 1's win beyers around 100. Pretty sad.

If Harlem and Mambo improve this race the others won't be competitive. The others have proven repeatedly that they are just not very fast horses.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Gander

Kind of tells you just how open the 3 year old division is (beyond Big Brown) when you see that the 2 favorites are the 2 more unaccomplished horses in here- Harlem and Mambo. You get great odds on many horses who have already captured Grade 1's:

Tale of Ekati, Colonel John, Pyro & Da Tara

Grade 1's just dont have that much meaning anymore.

First of all, Pyro is the 7-2 favorite. And what Grade 1 did he win?

[-BT-]

ahhhh what the F!!!!

no casino drive?


-bt-

[RollerDoc]

Is it me or does anyone else think from a "value" perspective that Tale of Ekati looks good at 20-1? Without Big Brown, this race is going to be wide open.

I kind of like Colonel John as a sleeper too.

[CSC]

This is a tough race for me to be objective, I've been a fan of Harlem Rocker since he broke his Mdn at GP. I've always thought he was a talent. I know he is the best horse if this race was at a mile, his last in the Wales was good/okay, however unless he improves off that race he might be too low oddswise to maybe look elsewhere. One thing that I do like about him is they have been pointing for this race. So he should fire off the bench. At 4-1 he is right at the limit where I would back him. Hopefully his somewhat low beyer in his last will elevate his odds.

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Is it me or does anyone else think from a "value" perspective that Tale of Ekati looks good at 20-1? Without Big Brown, this race is going to be wide open.

I kind of like Colonel John as a sleeper too.

i dont think the Colonel is much of a sleeper, he will be bet... no more then 5-1

[Gander]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

First of all, Pyro is the 7-2 favorite. And what Grade 1 did he win?

Oops, I thought the LA Derby was a Grade 1. My bad. Also, I didnt realize he is the offical morning line favorite, although I think he winds up 3rd choice behind Spanish Harlem and Mambo.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

First of all, Pyro is the 7-2 favorite. And what Grade 1 did he win?

Pyro wants no part of 10f. Up to 9f, yeah, he competes. But he's not a natural stayer and would have to outclass his field to win at 10f at scale weights.

[57rick]

Saturday's card up at DRF.com

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Pyro wants no part of 10f. Up to 9f, yeah, he competes. But he's not a natural stayer and would have to outclass his field to win at 10f at scale weights.

and to outclass the field he'd have to have class to begin with... so yeah.

[SniperSB23]

Saratoga - August 23rd, 2008 - Race 8
Victory Ride S. - Grade: 3
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:03 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Sex: Fillies
Purse: $100,000
Distance: Six Furlongs
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Palanka City (KY) 3 Filly 123 Eibar Coa
2 Throbbin' Heart (KY) 3 Filly 120 Shaun Bridgmohan
3 More Happy (KY) 3 Filly 120 Cornelio H. Velasquez
4 Informed Decision (KY) 3 Filly 115 John R. Velazquez
5 Indyanne (KY) 3 Filly 123 Russell A. Baze
6 Porte Bonheur (KY) 3 Filly 120 Ramon A. Dominguez
7 Sly Storm (KY) 3 Filly 120 Javier Castellano
8 J Z Warrior (KY) 3 Filly 120 Kent J. Desormeaux


Saratoga - August 23rd, 2008 - Race 9
Bernard Baruch H. - Grade: 2
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:38 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward
Purse: $200,000
Distance: One And One Eighth Miles
Surface: Inner turf
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Drum Major (KY) 6 Horse 115 Cornelio H. Velasquez
2 Thorn Song (KY) 5 Horse 118 Julien R. Leparoux
3 Operation Red Dawn (KY) 6 Gelding 114 Ramon A. Dominguez
4 Elusive Fort (SAF) 6 Horse 114 Eibar Coa
5 Distorted Reality (FL) 4 Colt 115 John R. Velazquez
6 Shakis (IRE) 8 Horse 115 Alan Garcia
7 Proudinsky (GER) 5 Horse 118 Edgar S. Prado
8 Sensational Humor (KY) 5 Gelding 113 Rajiv Maragh
9 Yate's Black Cat (KY) 5 Horse 115 Robby Albarado
10 War Monger (FL) 4 Colt 115 Kent J. Desormeaux


Saratoga - August 23rd, 2008 - Race 10
NetJets King's Bishop S. - Grade: 1
Estimated Local Post Time: 5:10 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Purse: $250,000
Distance: Seven Furlongs
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Desert Key (KY) 3 Colt 117 John R. Velazquez
2 Gentleman James (KY) 3 Colt 117 Manuel Aguilar
3 Nautical Storm (KY) 3 Colt 117 Cornelio H. Velasquez
4 Visionaire (KY) 3 Colt 119 Alan Garcia
5 Silver Edition (KY) 3 Colt 117 Julien R. Leparoux
6 Kodiak Kowboy (KY) 3 Colt 121 Gabriel Saez
7 Golden Spikes (KY) 3 Colt 121 Elvis Trujillo
8 J Be K (KY) 3 Colt 121 Garrett K. Gomez
9 Salute the Sarge (KY) 3 Colt 121 Kent J. Desormeaux
10 I'm So Lucky (KY) 3 Colt 117 Robby Albarado
11 Lantana Mob (KY) 3 Colt 119 Ramon A. Dominguez

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Travers is out.

1. Tale of Ekati, Edgar Prado, 20-1
2. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 8-1
3. Da' Tara, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4. Tizbig, Cornelio Velasquez, 30-1
5. Macho Again, Julien Leparoux, 6-1
6. Cool Coal Man, John Velazquez, 15-1
7. Amped, Jorge Chavez, 30-1
8. Harlem Rocker, Eibar Coa, 4-1
9. Mambo in Seattle, Robby Albarado, 5-1
10. Tres Borrachos, Tyler Baze, 15-1
11. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, 7-2
12. Court Vision, Kent Desormeaux, 12-1

The betting should be spread but I can't see Macho Again going off as the fourth favorite. I think he's most likely to be favored.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The betting should be spread but I can't see Macho Again going off as the fourth favorite. I think he's most likely to be favored.

??? Favored? Macho Again? I dont think so. 4th choice sounds right to me.

You should hear the way everybody is chirping up Mambo in Seattle around here. Has to be the biggest wise guy Travers Play ever.

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Travers is out.

1. Tale of Ekati, Edgar Prado, 20-1
2. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 8-1
3. Da' Tara, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4. Tizbig, Cornelio Velasquez, 30-1
5. Macho Again, Julien Leparoux, 6-1
6. Cool Coal Man, John Velazquez, 15-1
7. Amped, Jorge Chavez, 30-1
8. Harlem Rocker, Eibar Coa, 4-1
9. Mambo in Seattle, Robby Albarado, 5-1
10. Tres Borrachos, Tyler Baze, 15-1
11. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, 7-2
12. Court Vision, Kent Desormeaux, 12-1

where is you and i forever ?
i liked him, just from taking a quick look, for the purpose of a pick 4, i cant see going any less then at least 6 deep, using the 2,3,5,9,11,12

[Cajungator26]

Decent field ...

I like the good Colonel (especially at those odds.)