8/23 (SAR): Travers; King's Bishop; Baruch; Vic. Ride

[Gander]

Should be out by 3pm today.

[Quiet Chris]

Travers is out.

1. Tale of Ekati, Edgar Prado, 20-1
2. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 8-1
3. Da' Tara, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4. Tizbig, Cornelio Velasquez, 30-1
5. Macho Again, Julien Leparoux, 6-1
6. Cool Coal Man, John Velazquez, 15-1
7. Amped, Jorge Chavez, 30-1
8. Harlem Rocker, Eibar Coa, 4-1
9. Mambo in Seattle, Robby Albarado, 5-1
10. Tres Borrachos, Tyler Baze, 15-1
11. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, 7-2
12. Court Vision, Kent Desormeaux, 12-1

[Gander]

Thanks. I find it completely shocking that this was drawn over an hour ago and still hasnt find its way on to NYRA's website yet.

[TheSpyder]

Too many people sampling the Travers Cooler don't cha know.

Originally Posted by Gander

Thanks. I find it completely shocking that this was drawn over an hour ago and still hasnt find its way on to NYRA's website yet.

[Gander]

Kind of tells you just how open the 3 year old division is (beyond Big Brown) when you see that the 2 favorites are the 2 more unaccomplished horses in here- Harlem and Mambo. You get great odds on many horses who have already captured Grade 1's:

Tale of Ekati, Colonel John, Pyro & Da Tara

Grade 1's just dont have that much meaning anymore.

[ArlJim78]

good race, pretty much every three yo not named Big Brown.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Gander

Kind of tells you just how open the 3 year old division is (beyond Big Brown) when you see that the 2 favorites are the 2 more unaccomplished horses in here- Harlem and Mambo. You get great odds on many horses who have already captured Grade 1's:

Tale of Ekati, Colonel John, Pyro & Da Tara

Grade 1's just dont have that much meaning anymore.

It really just looks like the 3yr olds that competed earlier in the year were not very good. All of these horses won grade 1's win beyers around 100. Pretty sad.

If Harlem and Mambo improve this race the others won't be competitive. The others have proven repeatedly that they are just not very fast horses.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Gander

Kind of tells you just how open the 3 year old division is (beyond Big Brown) when you see that the 2 favorites are the 2 more unaccomplished horses in here- Harlem and Mambo. You get great odds on many horses who have already captured Grade 1's:

Tale of Ekati, Colonel John, Pyro & Da Tara

Grade 1's just dont have that much meaning anymore.

First of all, Pyro is the 7-2 favorite. And what Grade 1 did he win?

[-BT-]

ahhhh what the F!!!!

no casino drive?


-bt-

[RollerDoc]

Is it me or does anyone else think from a "value" perspective that Tale of Ekati looks good at 20-1? Without Big Brown, this race is going to be wide open.

I kind of like Colonel John as a sleeper too.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

First of all, Pyro is the 7-2 favorite. And what Grade 1 did he win?

Oops, I thought the LA Derby was a Grade 1. My bad. Also, I didnt realize he is the offical morning line favorite, although I think he winds up 3rd choice behind Spanish Harlem and Mambo.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

First of all, Pyro is the 7-2 favorite. And what Grade 1 did he win?

Pyro wants no part of 10f. Up to 9f, yeah, he competes. But he's not a natural stayer and would have to outclass his field to win at 10f at scale weights.

[57rick]

Saturday's card up at DRF.com

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Pyro wants no part of 10f. Up to 9f, yeah, he competes. But he's not a natural stayer and would have to outclass his field to win at 10f at scale weights.

and to outclass the field he'd have to have class to begin with... so yeah.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Travers is out.

1. Tale of Ekati, Edgar Prado, 20-1
2. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 8-1
3. Da' Tara, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4. Tizbig, Cornelio Velasquez, 30-1
5. Macho Again, Julien Leparoux, 6-1
6. Cool Coal Man, John Velazquez, 15-1
7. Amped, Jorge Chavez, 30-1
8. Harlem Rocker, Eibar Coa, 4-1
9. Mambo in Seattle, Robby Albarado, 5-1
10. Tres Borrachos, Tyler Baze, 15-1
11. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, 7-2
12. Court Vision, Kent Desormeaux, 12-1

The betting should be spread but I can't see Macho Again going off as the fourth favorite. I think he's most likely to be favored.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The betting should be spread but I can't see Macho Again going off as the fourth favorite. I think he's most likely to be favored.

??? Favored? Macho Again? I dont think so. 4th choice sounds right to me.

You should hear the way everybody is chirping up Mambo in Seattle around here. Has to be the biggest wise guy Travers Play ever.

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Travers is out.

1. Tale of Ekati, Edgar Prado, 20-1
2. Colonel John, Garrett Gomez, 8-1
3. Da' Tara, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4. Tizbig, Cornelio Velasquez, 30-1
5. Macho Again, Julien Leparoux, 6-1
6. Cool Coal Man, John Velazquez, 15-1
7. Amped, Jorge Chavez, 30-1
8. Harlem Rocker, Eibar Coa, 4-1
9. Mambo in Seattle, Robby Albarado, 5-1
10. Tres Borrachos, Tyler Baze, 15-1
11. Pyro, Shaun Bridgmohan, 7-2
12. Court Vision, Kent Desormeaux, 12-1

where is you and i forever ?
i liked him, just from taking a quick look, for the purpose of a pick 4, i cant see going any less then at least 6 deep, using the 2,3,5,9,11,12

[Cajungator26]

Decent field ...

I like the good Colonel (especially at those odds.)

the pick 4 might be impossible to hit, i see 6 deep in the travers and thats leaving harlem rocker out, i see 5 deep in the bishop and thats leaving j be k out.... i dont think russell bazes horse is a lock either, and the turf race is tough, im hoping war monger turns it around, but no way can you single there

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hrfan

the pick 4 might be impossible to hit, i see 6 deep in the travers and thats leaving harlem rocker out, i see 5 deep in the bishop and thats leaving j be k out.... i dont think russell bazes horse is a lock either, and the turf race is tough, im hoping war monger turns it around, but no way can you single there

i think it would be insane to leave j be k out. Just my opinion. This horse is a freak and he romped in his maiden at Saratoga.. And I dont understand going 6 deep in the travers and not having harlem rocker. I dont see harlem being a cinch by any means, but I also cant find 6 horses I'd like better than him...