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Old 08-12-2008, 11:45 AM
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There is zero doubt in my mind that he knew exactly where Bejarano was the whole way, and he knew Bejarano had the best horse. No doubt in my mind that he knew the 9 went inside of him, and then(and only then) did he start with the right hand whipping. Espinoza was doing what other guys do when they don't have the horse to win fairly. The problem with this whole situation is that they normally ignore these tactics, and all the sudden(when the cast of characters is a certain way,) they have a problem with riding this way. People, ya momma smoking a pound of weed a week could be more consistent and objective than this bunch. Don't expect Gomez to get taken down for doing the same thing(ain't gunna happen.)
I didn't really want to get into this anymore, however I watched the replay again/head on and to me there was plenty of blame that goes both ways for both riders. I doubt if Court's horse was to the inside of Bejarano's that there would have been a dq'd. My opinion is yes perhaps Victor tried to intimidate Bejarano's mount but bejarano was not clear, he chose that route where he could have stayed wide. Yes I know Victor's horse drifted however if a horse was to be taken down everytime they drifted, everyone here would probably stop playing this game. It's done and over, I suspect the consensus will be split on this topic. I hope we can move on.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:30 PM
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I didn't really want to get into this anymore, however I watched the replay again/head on and to me there was plenty of blame that goes both ways for both riders. I doubt if Court's horse was to the inside of Bejarano's that there would have been a dq'd. My opinion is yes perhaps Victor tried to intimidate Bejarano's mount but bejarano was not clear, he chose that route where he could have stayed wide. Yes I know Victor's horse drifted however if a horse was to be taken down everytime they drifted, everyone here would probably stop playing this game. It's done and over, I suspect the consensus will be split on this topic. I hope we can move on.
No, we aren't just gunna move on. You are wrong. He was intentionally blocking. They would of let it go once, but he did it twice. Fact is they allow too much of this, and so when they actually do the right thing they look inconsistent.They are inconsistent, and that's why there is disagreement about this take down. This was intentional blocking done in a reckless and obvious way. Fact is we move on too much, and that's why people are so ignorant that they don't recognize the dangerous irresponsible stuff Victor did. Even when people recognize it, they don't think it should be called. This is the steward's fault for overlooking it when a more popular rider does it. He makes a horse go wide(doesn't ever hit him righthanded in an effort to get him to stop running wide,) and then he starts whipping righthanded to block the same horse from going inside of him. No, that can't be allowed. Like I said, if you think that should be part of sports, then watch the Daytona 500. That's allowed in that race (constantly.) If you allow it in horseracing, you're gunna get somebody killed, and they were taking their chances of getting somebody killed when Victor did this. To be honest, this shouldn't even have had to go to the stewards. On any real track, the best horse would of easily gotten up(despite the cheating Victor did.) That is a pathetically short stretch. Having the finish line that close to the final turn is just asking for trouble like this. Any adult track would of given Bejarano's horse plenty of time to get up. This short stretch is just tempting guys to do stuff like this. My God, this horse lost by a head, and you don't think Victor gave him a head's worth of trouble? This isn't a tough call. Bejarano's horse was much the best. He was blocked twice, and the 2nd time was very reckless and endangered all those riders. I'm not surprised they had a fight. The other riders can't allow a guy to do what Victor did, or during each meet, one of them would be dead( or in a chair sucking straw.)

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Old 08-12-2008, 01:10 PM
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Wow, look at the head-on at 1:06. Victor's horse looks like it would never ever come back inside. Then look at 1:11. He has moved way back down inside to simply block the best horse. This was one of the most dangerous things I have seen a rider do. I think, if they can, they will give this guy weeks off(not just days off.) Yea, I have seen them ignore this amount of trouble. That's why I am saying they are inconsistent. Fact is they weren't gunna ignore this obvious an effort to block. This is simply a jockey making stupid decisions that endangered horses and riders.
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