Music Note work?

ateamstupid · #1 08-10-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Hmmm... DRF had written on Friday that a decision would be made after Music Note worked on Sunday... I hope there's nothing wrong with her.

Wait, I thought fillies only get hurt after they run against males..

Betsy · #2 08-10-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Wait, I thought fillies only get hurt after they run against males..

I take it then that you don't think Rags' effort in the Belmont contributed to her injuries? It wasn't my intention, however, to get into a debate about that. I suspect MN has a fever.......that would explain why Little Belle, who was also supposed to work, didn't. If I had to guess, they both have fevers. I can't see any other reason for both fillies to miss works. I'm trying to be positive, but it's hard because it means that MN will miss the Alabama at least.

philcski · #3 08-10-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I take it then that you don't think Rags' effort in the Belmont contributed to her injuries? It wasn't my intention, however, to get into a debate about that. I suspect MN has a fever.......that would explain why Little Belle, who was also supposed to work, didn't. If I had to guess, they both have fevers. I can't see any other reason for both fillies to miss works. I'm trying to be positive, but it's hard because it means that MN will miss the Alabama at least.

Track was sealed this morning, which is my guess as to why they held her back from working.

Danzig · #4 08-10-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I take it then that you don't think Rags' effort in the Belmont contributed to her injuries? It wasn't my intention, however, to get into a debate about that. I suspect MN has a fever.......that would explain why Little Belle, who was also supposed to work, didn't. If I had to guess, they both have fevers. I can't see any other reason for both fillies to miss works. I'm trying to be positive, but it's hard because it means that MN will miss the Alabama at least.

i don't. she was in training for weeks after the race, and then raced again. the injury didn't appear til after the race following the belmont. they assumed it happened in her race vs the females.

i just don't get why people think a filly runs harder vs males then vs fillies. it's not as tho a horse can run above their ability because they sense their competition level has risen.

TheSpyder · #5 08-10-2008, 04:37 PM

Agreed...just look at the sales on Black Friday.....

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't. she was in training for weeks after the race, and then raced again. the injury didn't appear til after the race following the belmont. they assumed it happened in her race vs the females.

i just don't get why people think a filly runs harder vs males then vs fillies. it's not as tho a horse can run above their ability because they sense their competition level has risen.

Danzig · #6 08-10-2008, 04:40 PM

Both Music Note and Little Belle breezed on Sunday on Godolphin's private training track at Saratoga. Mettee said he timed Music Note in 1:02.40 for five furlongs on the synthetic Polytrack surface. Metee said Music Note covered the last quarter in :22.80.

Mettee said Little Belle drilled five furlongs in 1:00.80, and Metee called the workout "probably the best piece of work she's done since she came over to Godolphin."

Betsy · #7 08-10-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

Both Music Note and Little Belle breezed on Sunday on Godolphin's private training track at Saratoga. Mettee said he timed Music Note in 1:02.40 for five furlongs on the synthetic Polytrack surface. Metee said Music Note covered the last quarter in :22.80.

Mettee said Little Belle drilled five furlongs in 1:00.80, and Metee called the workout "probably the best piece of work she's done since she came over to Godolphin."

Yeah, I saw that after I had posted here.......sounds like Music Note finished very well. I saw a quote from Mettee where it said she finished in 22 and change.

What do you think about Music Note in the Travers? Do you think they should go for it or just stick to the Alabama?

Danzig · #8 08-10-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

Yeah, I saw that after I had posted here.......sounds like Music Note finished very well. I saw a quote from Mettee where it said she finished in 22 and change.

What do you think about Music Note in the Travers? Do you think they should go for it or just stick to the Alabama?

if i had one of this years fillies, compared to the colts we've got, i'd try her in the travers.

ateamstupid · #9 08-10-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't. she was in training for weeks after the race, and then raced again. the injury didn't appear til after the race following the belmont. they assumed it happened in her race vs the females.

i just don't get why people think a filly runs harder vs males then vs fillies.

This is my point. If an injury occurs because of a horse's level of competition, it's about just that, not gender. What does the situation of Rags to Riches, who ran against very good three-year-olds, have to do with Music Note, who would be running against lousy three-year-olds? Is Music Note going to run harder than she would against Proud Spell because she sees Macho Again's penis?

Danzig · #10 08-10-2008, 04:54 PM

i don't understand the comparison either. nor do i understand why someone would attempt to detract from what was a very good, and very exciting effort from rags by saying that she just couldn't handle the fact she faced colts, rather than fillies that day. that is absolutely ridiculous. this is one of the few sports that females can compete and win vs the opposite sex...unlike football for instance.

King Glorious · #11 08-10-2008, 05:10 PM

Miesque, Winning Colors, Serena's Song, and Personal Ensign are some of my favorite example of fillies that were ruined by facing the boys. It should never be done. Lady's Secret and Azeri are two more.

Danzig · #12 08-10-2008, 05:12 PM

or genuine risk, she faced them four time in a row. the nerve.

Indian Charlie · #13 08-10-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Miesque, Winning Colors, Serena's Song, and Personal Ensign are some of my favorite example of fillies that were ruined by facing the boys. It should never be done. Lady's Secret and Azeri are two more.

You forgot Estrapade.

Betsy · #14 08-10-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't. she was in training for weeks after the race, and then raced again. the injury didn't appear til after the race following the belmont. they assumed it happened in her race vs the females.

i just don't get why people think a filly runs harder vs males then vs fillies. it's not as tho a horse can run above their ability because they sense their competition level has risen.

I agree, it's just that the Belmont obvious took a huge toll on her. Was it worth it not to see her again? I know she doesn't have many fans on this board, but she sure was a good filly and might have been more.

Danzig · #15 08-10-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I agree, it's just that the Belmont obvious took a huge toll on her. Was it worth it not to see her again? I know she doesn't have many fans on this board, but she sure was a good filly and might have been more.

i haven't seen anyone say they don't like this horse. haven't seen anyone knock her at all so i don't know why you would say she hasn't got many fans.
it isn't obvious to me that the belmont took a huge toll. i'd say her subsequent loss, followed by her not quite acting herself (according to her exercise rider, whatever that means) along with her value to her owners, is what lead to us not seeing her again. not the belmont, not the injury. they didn't want to risk her, didn't plan to run her at four anyway i'd imagine, so she was retired. THAT is not the belmonts fault.

Betsy · #16 08-10-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i haven't seen anyone say they don't like this horse. haven't seen anyone knock her at all so i don't know why you would say she hasn't got many fans.
it isn't obvious to me that the belmont took a huge toll. i'd say her subsequent loss, followed by her not quite acting herself (according to her exercise rider, whatever that means) along with her value to her owners, is what lead to us not seeing her again. not the belmont, not the injury. they didn't want to risk her, didn't plan to run her at four anyway i'd imagine, so she was retired. THAT is not the belmonts fault.

It's certainly possible that I'm not remembering correctly.. I did think they planned to run her at four, but I realize I'm in the minority on that one.

Danzig · #17 08-10-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

It's certainly possible that I'm not remembering correctly.. I did think they planned to run her at four, but I realize I'm in the minority on that one.

originally they may have-but i think her aborted work when the exercise rider felt 'something' worried them, and then the loss and her injury....