Lava Man and the Pac Classic.

GPK · #1 08-17-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Tri box: PD/Giacomo/LM

I have a sneaky feeling Giacomo is going to shock us again. I think Lava is tired (But I am admitting that right now this horse is HOY in my book so I am not bashing him), PD is going to hit the front and Giacomo is going to come with his run. Whether or not he will get by Drifty I don't know, kinda afraid he will, but I am hoping not. Lava will be a half length behind PD. This is just a senerio in my head.

Scenario, or dream??? LOL...Have to admire your dedication to PD, but he hasn't won in two years and I don't see things changing this weekend. I certainly see him 2nd or 3rd, as usual, but hard to endorse him on top. You would think by now that people would LOAD UP on PD in the place and show pools, yet they continue to still throw $$$ at him in the win pool. How he went off at even money to me at Arlington a few weeks ago still boggles my mind. Hard to knock the old fella for still running and the connections are lucky to have a horse that keeps making them money in big races. PD always runs his game, that you can count on, but the only problem is that his game is 2nd or 3rd place.

Thunder Gulch · #2 08-17-2006, 08:31 AM

My confusion is whether do take the all/ drift/ all trifecta, or the all/ all/ drift trifecta.

GPK · #3 08-17-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

My confusion is whether do take the all/ drift/ all trifecta, or the all/ all/ drift trifecta.

they are both clearly the smartest bets to make.

Buffymommy · #4 08-17-2006, 09:00 AM

I liked what his trainer had to say about him in that bloodhorse article yesterday. I really like this horse. He does have a tendency to get caught in the final strides (which is why Giacomo scares me). Oh a horse scares me uh-oh!

Also, Magnum. What do you all make of this horse?

Gander · #5 08-17-2006, 09:18 AM

Kev- Every horse is beatable. Just check out this list of horses who lost this year at Saratoga, some not even remotely competitive (granted you may have been against or for some of these but they all figured to be real tough):
Songster, Wild Fit, Relaxed Gesture, Rewrite, Magical Ride, FLower Alley, Artie Schiller. Those just the obvious ones.

Sure Lava Man could lose. But if you dont have a concrete opinion on 1 or 2 horses that can logically beat him, why not just skip the race and just watch and root for this unbelieveable animal? Theres a million other races to bet between now and then. I think he romps in here.

2Hot4TV · #6 08-17-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

I liked what his trainer had to say about him in that bloodhorse article yesterday. I really like this horse. He does have a tendency to get caught in the final strides (which is why Giacomo scares me). Oh a horse scares me uh-oh!

Also, Magnum. What do you all make of this horse?

Sitting on his best. This is the horse that I will play to beat them all. Magnums last race was a bazzare ride from P.Val and he will get Alex Solis this time. He's going to sit off the pace and try to nail them at the wire.

2Hot4TV · #7 08-17-2006, 09:54 AM

GPK, Now that you have a new respect for Lava Man, What do you think about the weight differance in his last race? The Pacific Classic is at equal weights. They will all carry 124 lbs. I really think it will be hard to beat him without someone really stepping up thier game.

GPK · #8 08-17-2006, 10:08 AM

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GPK, Now that you have a new respect for Lava Man, What do you think about the weight differance in his last race? The Pacific Classic is at equal weights. They will all carry 124 lbs. I really think it will be hard to beat him without someone really stepping up thier game.

The more I think about it, and I doubt my thoughts will change once I see the PP's. it may just be a great race to sit back and watch instead of wagering. Should be fun to watch PD give his fans a glimpse of hope again before finishing 2nd or 3rd.

pdrift1 · #9 08-17-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Scenario, or dream??? LOL...Have to admire your dedication to PD, but he hasn't won in two years and I don't see things changing this weekend. I certainly see him 2nd or 3rd, as usual, but hard to endorse him on top. You would think by now that people would LOAD UP on PD in the place and show pools, yet they continue to still throw $$$ at him in the win pool. How he went off at even money to me at Arlington a few weeks ago still boggles my mind. Hard to knock the old fella for still running and the connections are lucky to have a horse that keeps making them money in big races. PD always runs his game, that you can count on, but the only problem is that his game is 2nd or 3rd place.

won the washington park last year

GPK · #10 08-17-2006, 12:48 PM

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won the washington park last year

excuse me...was just going by something I thought that I read where he had not won in 2 years. I was wrong and I stand corrected.

As far as you commenting on me being blind about him not winning another G1 before he retires, I'm afraid that you are mistaken, because no where did I ever say that he wouldn't. I said that his game (especially of late) has been coming in 2nd or 3rd and if YOU can't see that from looking at his PP's, I am afraid you are the blind one.

pdrift1 · #11 08-17-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

excuse me...was just going by something I thought that I read where he had not won in 2 years. I was wrong and I stand corrected.

As far as you commenting on me being blind about him not winning another G1 before he retires, I'm afraid that you are mistaken, because no where did I ever say that he wouldn't. I said that his game (especially of late) has been coming in 2nd or 3rd and if YOU can't see that from looking at his PP's, I am afraid you are the blind one.

i understand that you didnt make that comment straight out that he wouldnt win. but(that his his game of late has been 2nd and 3rds? this is why i pointed out the foster in my thread, pp's or not when you watched that race and the margin of loss, that could be considered just as good as a win, or a win, when its that close your splitting hairs. we were that close in the foster to not even having this discussion. that race alone is different then the plethora of other races hes taken 2nd in by noses heads, half lengths or lengths in grade 1 competition. kev your a good guy , i'm not trying to argue just sticking up for drifty

GPK · #12 08-17-2006, 01:42 PM

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i understand that you didnt make that comment straight out that he wouldnt win. but(that his his game of late has been 2nd and 3rds? this is why i pointed out the foster in my thread, pp's or not when you watched that race and the margin of loss, that could be considered just as good as a win, or a win, when its that close your splitting hairs. we were that close in the foster to not even having this discussion. that race alone is different then the plethora of other races hes taken 2nd in by noses heads, half lengths or lengths in grade 1 competition. kev your a good guy , i'm not trying to argue just sticking up for drifty

No worries my friend....I do hope I didn't offend. I do respect PD...he continues to hit the board in very big races, time after time. I can understand you taking up for PD because Lord knows I would do the same with English Channel.

pdrift1 · #13 08-17-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

No worries my friend....I do hope I didn't offend. I do respect PD...he continues to hit the board in very big races, time after time. I can understand you taking up for PD because Lord knows I would do the same with English Channel.

not offended, you have always been one of the good guys back on the old board i enjoyed reading. im a english channel fan also and hope the best for him come bc in nov. good luck and may both our horses stay healthy and win grade 1's

GPK · #14 08-17-2006, 02:02 PM

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not offended, you have always been one of the good guys back on the old board i enjoyed reading. im a english channel fan also and hope the best for him come bc in nov. good luck and may both our horses stay healthy and win grade 1's

Now we are talking

Buffymommy · #15 08-17-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

No worries my friend....I do hope I didn't offend. I do respect PD...he continues to hit the board in very big races, time after time. I can understand you taking up for PD because Lord knows I would do the same with English Channel.

Good. I didn't want to have to hurt you. You leave my drifty alone.