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Old 08-06-2008, 07:41 PM
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Why would he be "great" if he beats more bad horses in the BC? The only way you could even make an argument for him being "great" - which in my opinion is a waste of time anyways - is if he were to face Curlin and beat him on dirt. . . which he could never do.

I'm pretty certain that Big Brown will be in a race featuring the best of the best which is the whole purpose of this race. Hopefully this weeds out the bad horses.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:42 PM
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I'm pretty certain that Big Brown will be in a race featuring the best of the best which is the whole purpose of this race. Hopefully this weeds out the bad horses.
There's no use arguing with a clueless Big Brown groupie like you. . .
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:46 PM
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There's no use arguing with a clueless Big Brown groupie like you. . .
Arguing.....Look who's talking Mr. Huh? Great argument on your part. At least you are good at insulting.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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Arguing.....Look who's talking Mr. Huh? Great argument on your part. At least you are good at insulting.
There's no use arguing with you because you don't know what you're talking about. You're so in love with this horse that you bet him at 1/5, and have no historical perspective that would help you understand why Big Brown isn't "great."
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:20 PM
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:24 PM
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There's no use arguing with you because you don't know what you're talking about. You're so in love with this horse that you bet him at 1/5, and have no historical perspective that would help you understand why Big Brown isn't "great."
So I bet him at 1/5. Is that crazy?...Yes. Did I bet a fortune? No. Did having a little action on him make the race more enjoyable for me to watch on ESPNC? Absolutely! What is wrong with that? Plus he won. And if he didn't, then no big deal because I have won hundreds on him this year. I'd still have a plentiful surplus.

Historical perspective is something I am learning admittedly. I am not comparing him to the greats of the past or the greats of the past that I don't even know about. By standing up for his accomplishments thus far against a tenured crowd who is giving him very little respect is something I choose to believe in. Don't confuse that with being in love with the horse.

But I do love learning about this sport which I prefer over being insulted.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:32 PM
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So I bet him at 1/5. Is that crazy?...Yes. Did I bet a fortune? No. Did having a little action on him make the race more enjoyable for me to watch on ESPNC? Absolutely! What is wrong with that? Plus he won. And if he didn't, then no big deal because I have won hundreds on him this year. I'd still have a plentiful surplus.

Historical perspective is something I am learning admittedly. I am not comparing him to the greats of the past or the greats of the past that I don't even know about. By standing up for his accomplishments thus far against a tenured crowd who is giving him very little respect is something I choose to believe in. Don't confuse that with being in love with the horse.

But I do love learning about this sport which I prefer over being insulted.
So you admit to not knowing what you're talking about, and acknowledge that others know more, but refuse to listen to them when they say this horse isn't great?
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:45 PM
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So you admit to not knowing what you're talking about, and acknowledge that others know more, but refuse to listen to them when they say this horse isn't great?
I asked if he would be great if he wins BCC? Not sure if anyone agrees with me, or no one has so far in that scenario. I happen to think he will be great with the year he had. It is not Big Brown's fault that the quality of his competition does not satisfy you or anybody else.

The fact is, with the exception of The Belmont (and I think there are a lot of people including myself that would love to know what really went wrong), he will have won every race if he wins the BCC. He was hurt early as a three year old so his next race he had to heal. Then he raced three times in five weeks. Who else did that? The Haskell was two months later but that is because Big Brown had issues that needed to be looked into so there was no risk in endangering the horse. One more race before the BCC makes sense to me. That is a very solid attendance record for racing this year.

PS....Since Big Brown beat Da'Tara by over 30 lengths at FL Derby, isn't that a pretty good indicator that something was clearly wrong at The Belmont. Some say yeah, he was washed up. Very unfair to the Derby and Preakness champion.
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