Which horses were truly great?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so she cant be on the list because she didnt run against males?

She did and beat them in the Whitney. I just think that if you just treat them all as horses and ignore their sex she wouldn't be in that top tier.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

She did and beat them in the Whitney. I just think that if you just treat them all as horses and ignore their sex she wouldn't be in that top tier.

I think it is ridiculous to ignore their sex. She would have to be on that list. also Ruffian, Lady's Secret and a few others... like maybe Regret?

The way you describe... Billy Jean King couldnt be an "elite" tennis player because she couldnt have beat Arthur Ashe or Pete Sampras??

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think it is ridiculous to ignore their sex. She would have to be on that list. also Ruffian, Lady's Secret and a few others... like maybe Regret?

The way you describe... Billy Jean King couldnt be an "elite" tennis player because she couldnt have beat Arthur Ashe or Pete Sampras??

If I open it up to great for a filly then we get great for a sprinter and so on until someone is naming the fastest female turf sprinter of all time as a great. Look at the bloodhorse top 100, the highest female was 35th. This is the same concept.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think it is ridiculous to ignore their sex. She would have to be on that list. also Ruffian, Lady's Secret and a few others... like maybe Regret?

The way you describe... Billy Jean King couldnt be an "elite" tennis player because she couldnt have beat Arthur Ashe or Pete Sampras??

genuine risk belongs too. no filly has had a better tc then her, a win and two seconds-hell, that's better than alydars record in the classics!

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Danzig

genuine risk belongs too. no filly has had a better tc then her, a win and two seconds-hell, that's better than alydars record in the classics!

She wasn't even the best 3yo filly of her year. Bold n' Determined beat her the only time they met and won over their elders, which GR didn't do. Look at her record.

1977 BOLD 'N DETERMINED,B,f,Bold And Brave 3 20 16 2 0 949,599
At 2 Won Oak Leaf S. -G2 (100,000)
At 3 Won Fantasy S. -G1 (150,000), Spinster S. -G1 (150,000), Coaching
Club American Oaks -G1 (125,000), Santa Susana S. -G1 (100,000),
Kentucky Oaks -G1 (100,000), Acorn S. -G1 (75,000), Maskette S. -G2 (75,000), Pasadena S. (50,000), 2nd Mother Goose S. -G1 (100,000)
At 4 Won Apple Blossom H. -G2 (200,000), Bewitch S. (50,000), 2nd La Brea