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Old 08-06-2008, 01:07 PM
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Is that really all it takes now days?

It does if you factor in the degree of difficulty (post positions) in at least two of those races. Yes correct!
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:17 PM
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It does if you factor in the degree of difficulty (post positions) in at least two of those races. Yes correct!
Dr. Fager just rolled over in his grave
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:20 PM
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Dr. Fager just rolled over in his grave
It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?
Do you follow any sports or movies?
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:24 PM
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Do you follow any sports or movies?
I guess not close enough to catch this hidden gem. C'mon who is he?
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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I guess not close enough to catch this hidden gem. C'mon who is he?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Fager

Not knowing who Dr Fager is is like being a baseball fan who never heard of Willie mays
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Fager

Not knowing who Dr Fager is is like being a baseball fan who never heard of Willie mays

Who is Willie Mays
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:24 PM
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It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/dr+fager

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Alfleet Alex is my favorite horse of all time. But who did he really beat in the Preakness and Belmont other than Giacomo (a 50-1 KD winner). And don't say Scrappy T Yet most agree that Alex was a great horse.
I don't think Afleet Alex was anywhere close to great, though the comparison with Big Brown is a good one.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:29 PM
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I don't think Afleet Alex was anywhere close to great, though the comparison with Big Brown is a good one.[/quote]

Afleet Alex (1 1/2 lengths from winning Triple Crown) + amazing recovery at Preakness + Top 3 yr old 2005 = Great Horse IMHO
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:31 PM
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Afleet Alex (1 1/2 lengths from winning Triple Crown) + amazing recovery at Preakness + Top 3 yr old 2005 = Great Horse IMHO
So again, you don't take level of competition into consideration. I can see we're making progress.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:51 PM
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So again, you don't take level of competition into consideration. I can see we're making progress.
Yes I do take level of competition into consideration. I am just getting frustrated that so many of you dilute the accomplishments of Big Brown because of the dismay you all have for his connections (which I am disappointed as well). The Jackson's, Michael Matz, and Edgar Prado they sure are not.

Take them out of the equation and I think we have had a really talented 3 year old to be treated to this year in Big Brown. If the BCC were to be held today, you can take to the bank that I will bet the $400.00 plus that I am up on betting Big Brown this year TO WIN and beat old man Curlin. Uh oh....I know I am really going to get slammed for that one. Just kidding about Curlin.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:31 PM
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Afleet Alex (1 1/2 lengths from winning Triple Crown) + amazing recovery at Preakness + Top 3 yr old 2005 = Great Horse IMHO
So barely cracking the top 100 3yos of the past 50 years is great to you?
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:34 PM
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So barely cracking the top 100 3yos of the past 50 years is great to you?
Top 100 over the past 50 years, possibly top 60 in the past 50 years. So yes Great but not Tony the Tiger Grrrrrrrrrrrrreat!
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:49 PM
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It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?
Go pick up DRF's "The Lives, Times & Past Performances of America's Greatest Thorougbreds". In it you will see GREAT horses of the past...
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:42 PM
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It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?
this post explains a lot. a ton.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:56 AM
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It sounds like a clever retort. Jokes on me because I don't know who Dr. Fager is. Will you complete the joke for my purpose?
Check out the Thoroughbred Racing Hall of Fame and you might see some other names you should know, as well:

http://www.racingmuseum.org/Hall/index.asp
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:19 PM
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Doesn't the incredibly poor level of competition sort of offset that?
And what you say seems to be the sentiment of many. Would you be willing to say that on any given race, anything is possible (by any horse)?

I just think all of Big Brown's wins were impressive. I wish we really knew what happened at The Belmont? The Haskell was a comeback race for Big Brown and an impressive final furlong. He showed something he never had to before.

Alfleet Alex is my favorite horse of all time. But who did he really beat in the Preakness and Belmont other than Giacomo (a 50-1 KD winner). And don't say Scrappy T Yet most agree that Alex was a great horse. This is one example of why I don't buy into the lousy competition vs. Big Brown argument.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:21 PM
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And what you say seems to be the sentiment of many. Would you be willing to say that on any given race, anything is possible (by any horse)?

I just think all of Big Brown's wins were impressive. I wish we really knew what happened at The Belmont? The Haskell was a comeback race for Big Brown and an impressive final furlong. He showed something he never had to before.

Alfleet Alex is my favorite horse of all time. But who did he really beat in the Preakness and Belmont other than Giacomo (a 50-1 KD winner). And don't say Scrappy T Yet most agree that Alex was a great horse. This is one example of why I don't buy into the lousy competition vs. Big Brown argument.
Really?
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:22 PM
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Really?
See the post above yours...
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:23 PM
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Really?
Afleet Alex doesn't leave a leagcy as a great horse? When did this happen?
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