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[Gander]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I don't remember Curlin having any 'bad days', which is pretty damn remarkable considering the schedule that he had last year. He never had any chance in the Haskell, because it was impossible to close any ground on that track.

If Big Brown raced the schedule that Curlin did at three, he wouldve collapsed in the Belmont even earlier than he did and never been heard from again.

I agree that Curlin's legend is being inflated a bit because of the lack of good handicap horses recently, but he's better than Big Brown. It's not even close.

I didnt say bad days, I just said days where he didnt run his best. Sure, Big Brown's Belmont was way worse than any race Curlin ever ran, true dat. I know Curlin had a very tough trip in the KY Derby, and for him to finish 3rd was pretty darn good. Didnt he have a perfect trip in the Belmont though, and still lost?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Gander

I didnt say bad days, I just said days where he didnt run his best. Sure, Big Brown's Belmont was way worse than any race Curlin ever ran, true dat. I know Curlin had a very tough trip in the KY Derby, and for him to finish 3rd was pretty darn good. Didnt he have a perfect trip in the Belmont though, and still lost?

He got beaten a neck by a horse that's way better than anybody Big Brown has faced. Plus, consider that it was his sixth start since February, three weeks after running his eyeballs out to beat Street Sense in the Preakness. Do you think Big Brown would've done better in that situation?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

what if hard spun would have stayed around..would curlin look so good now..

[Gander]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He got beaten a neck by a horse that's way better than anybody Big Brown has faced. Plus, consider that it was his sixth start since February, three weeks after running his eyeballs out to beat Street Sense in the Preakness. Do you think Big Brown would've done better in that situation?

I dont really know. Its impossible to say. I was surprised Big Brown bounced back so quick (2 weeks) to crush the field in the Preakness. I dont think you are giving him enough credit for 2 reasons:

His lack of comeptition (not his fault)
His no show in the Belmont (still a question as to why)

Look, he was all out to win the Haskell, so maybe he is all done. But you have to be impressed with a horse who won from those outside posts in the Florida Derby and KY Derby. I dont care who he beat.

I think Curlin's competition was indeed very good so its obviously a no brainer that most think Curlin is the better horse (myself included). But I wouldnt ridicule those who think Big Brown is as good.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He got beaten a neck by a horse that's way better than anybody Big Brown has faced. Plus, consider that it was his sixth start since February, three weeks after running his eyeballs out to beat Street Sense in the Preakness. Do you think Big Brown would've done better in that situation?

I might get in trouble for saying this.. and I love Rags to Riches as much as anyone!

But this is just a question I am wondering your opinion... especially since I know how you feel about Rags too... How much better is Rags to Riches than Eight Belles??

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I might get in trouble for saying this.. and I love Rags to Riches as much as anyone!

But this is just a question I am wondering your opinion... especially since I know how you feel about Rags too... How much better is Rags to Riches than Eight Belles??

not interested in answering this o.e.y??? or do you actually have a life unlike me..

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

not interested in answering this o.e.y??? or do you actually have a life unlike me..

I never said anything bad about Rags to Riches. I said she wasn't a 'monster'. She was definitely better than Eight Belles.