Fasig Tipton Spa Open Sale

[paisjpq]

cajun--my 2 cents...sumitas is absolutely right. If you are looking for a filly to breed and she is not a winner she really needs to have a good 1st dam and /or some good siblings...otherwise you are setting yourself up for a foal with more than one generation of non-winners and buyers won't touch it.
best of luck though.

[sumitas]

This FT open sale replaced the NYBSC '05 yearling sale last year at Saratoga. The NYBSC had better numbers in '05 than FT did in '06.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/auc...p?Summary=2856
below is the FT open '06 summary
.........HEAD...........................NOT
DATE SOLD AMOUNT AVERAGE SOLD MEDIAN

8/15/06 70 680,500 9,721 63 5,350

The '05 NYBSC sale was over 2 days and the FT open session was a 1 day event.

[sumitas]

another excellent article by the bloodhorse Ray Paulik. What is it that is really being sold in the ring ? I think full disclosure is good for all facets of the business.
http://opinions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=34872

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by sumitas

another excellent article by the bloodhorse Ray Paulik. What is it that is really being sold in the ring ? I think full disclosure is good for all facets of the business.
http://opinions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=34872

Sumitas,
I also agree that "full disclosure" is good for all.
This doesn't only include corrective surgery, steroids, and other things that those that hope to get a higher price at the sales, but I would include ALL medications (for the bettors to consider).
This industry has a very bad reputation (see Finley's article on the other thread or at espn). Those of us that are in it need to find ways to regain trust, or we'll lose the market and the bettors that support it.
I agree...ALL facets of the business need to be considered.
When harness racing appears to have more integrity than thoroughbred racing, we really have a big problem to overcome.
I hope TOBA does what it can to restore trust...though I doubt they could if they wanted to.
Seems to me that if people can find a way to "cheat", they do.
I'll just say that if they are found, they should be banned, whether a breeder that misrepresents a consignment, or a trainer that hides meds, or a jockey that "arranges".
Heck, in this industry we don't need the FBI, we need the HBI (horse bureau of investigation). I don't think TOBA can afford it, but it sure would take a step toward regaining trust.

[sumitas]

i am glad to read that corrective surgeries on foals have no negative effects on their future performance. so those surgeries, apparently widespread are actually a positive for the foal.

now, the steroids are troubling. it does not seem the right thing to do.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by sumitas

i am glad to read that corrective surgeries on foals have no negative effects on their future performance. so those surgeries, apparently widespread are actually a positive for the foal.

now, the steroids are troubling. it does not seem the right thing to do.

surgery on a foal may not have an adverse affect on it's future performance but what about when it retires and bagins to breed? It perpetuates the problem of crooked foals that may not be able to run at all without surgical intervention. Look @ some of Real Quiets foals...not that his problems were ever a secret but breeding him is certainly not a good idea--I don't care what race he won...or his daughter either.

Hey everyone. I've been swamped and havent been around but def missed this place! Im looking over the sales results now and what a great chance to pick up some nice bloodlines for dirt cheap! Although the two fillies that really interested me, 527 and 440, both went for pretty good prices when compared to the sale in general.

Anyone going to the OBS Aug? I think I may be there. My brother is going and im trying to convince him and his friend to go in with me on a filly.