Lost in the Fog/cancer

[Scav]

Wonder if they can get him another spleen....I was just curious because if he were to come back from this and win a couple huge races, it would be national and movie type stuff, I am calling Aleo now for the ok to write the script (jk)

[prudery]

Originally Posted by Scav

Wonder if they can get him another spleen....I was just curious because if he were to come back from this and win a couple huge races, it would be national and movie type stuff, I am calling Aleo now for the ok to write the script (jk)

Laughter is the best medicine, but surely this is a failed placebo .

[Danzig]

i just read about fog on t'bred times. what horrible news.

and yes, the spleen may not be necessary, but i read that survival of the surgery for this is only 50/50. not exactly good odds...and they are running more tests first. if the cancer has spread than it doesn't seem from their remarks that surgery would still be an option.

hoping for good news, that the cancer is still just in the spleen. that in itself is bad enough.

[Rupert Pupkin]

The article at Bloodhorse.com said the tumor is the size of a football. The Lost in the Fog bashers were right. LITF was running bad because he's not a very good horse. It had nothing to do with the football size tumor on his spleen. LOL.

[sumitas]

What a hard knocking campaigner he was. He ran wherever and whenever and I'm sure he and his connections had one helluva year last year. I hope he can recover.

This is the first time I've heard of cancer in a prominent thoroughbred ... since Bold Ruler died from it in 1971. But his cancer wasn't diagnosed until he was a 15YO.

Does anyone else know of another prominent thoroughbred who developed serious cancer? Or one so young as Lost In The Fog?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The article at Bloodhorse.com said the tumor is the size of a football. The Lost in the Fog bashers were right. LITF was running bad because he's not a very good horse. It had nothing to do with the football size tumor on his spleen. LOL.

I participated in those threads and I never remember anyone making an argument that he was not a very good horse. Might I suggest just letting it go now. Whether it affected his performance or not at this point seems irrelevant to me.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I participated in those threads and I never remember anyone making an argument that he was not a very good horse. Might I suggest just letting it go now. Whether it affected his performance or not at this point seems irrelevant to me.

And the carpers don't say WHEN it started affecting his performance.

Was it during his ten-race winning streak ... or just since his eleventh race?

As you say ... it's irrelevant now. Let's just hope he can be treated ... and survive.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I participated in those threads and I never remember anyone making an argument that he was not a very good horse. Might I suggest just letting it go now. Whether it affected his performance or not at this point seems irrelevant to me.

THis is true. Nobody said he was a bad horse they just claimed he had never faced a high level of competition. There are some like myself who maybe wrongly saw the horse and proclaimed him a freak and very special. I still think he is/was, there are very few horses I have seen run like this horse. I am very unfamiliar with this sort of malady in horses and appreciate some the info given on this board.

[prudery]

This type of cancer presents in horses from 5-10 years old . Easy Goer had cancer at eight . The size of LITF's tumor nearly covers the entire spleen . Oxygenation is aided by the spleen . Draw your own conclusions . This is a very grave situation .

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

THis is true. Nobody said he was a bad horse they just claimed he had never faced a high level of competition. There are some like myself who maybe wrongly saw the horse and proclaimed him a freak and very special. I still think he is/was, there are very few horses I have seen run like this horse. I am very unfamiliar with this sort of malady in horses and appreciate some the info given on this board.

These guys thought that he had no excuse in his last race. They simply thought that he was overmatched and that was why he finished where he did. They thought that that was the best he is capable of running. They were totally wrong. He ran as bad as he did because of the football-sized tumor. I'm not saying whether or not he would have won the race. I'm simply saying that the horse did not fire and now we know why. I don't know if it cost him 5 lengths or 10 lengths but I think it is pretty obvious that as huge as the tumor is right now, that it was certainly affecting him last month.

If you guys don't think that a tumor this size was affecting him last month, you need your heads examined. Ask any vet or any trainer and they will tell you that this has certainly been affecting him for some time. It's not an exact science. They couldn't tell you that it was costing him 2 lengths eight months ago and 4 lengths four months ago. They couldn't tell you anything like that but they could certainly tell you that it had a huge effect on him last month. Knowing the size of it right now, we know that it was very advanced a month ago.