P Val in Trouble Again

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Man, you guys are way too soft. I could care less about PVal seeking help on his own. The man shouldnt be riding if he is on coke. It is plain and simple. And I believe that PVal and the CHRB agreed that the CHRB could test PVAL at any point in time. They only go to his home after he doesnt show up for his test. I am positive that no US Constituional rights have been violated. Kick him out of racing. If a horse tests positive kick the trainer out of racing and fine the owner $1mm.

Last time I checked we didn't have gulags and last time I checked Dr/Patient confidentiality privileges still applied. Now if they went to test him and he was in a health facility they had no MOTHER****** right to announce or leak anything to anyone. NONE. They do hav the right to ask him for an explanation or a test when he gets out and ban him, but since he or his gaent didn't leak this, who did? No way this doesn't stem from the board who tried to test him. Its bull**** and its wrong. No horse racing board has the legal authority to violate his rights and his confidentialty and privacy privileges. legal authorities and law enforcement members do but not a horse racing board.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Last time I checked we didn't have gulags and last time I checked Dr/Patient confidentiality privileges still applied. Now if they went to test him and he was in a health facility they had no MOTHER****** right to announce or leak anything to anyone. NONE. They do hav the right to ask him for an explanation or a test when he gets out and ban him, but since he or his gaent didn't leak this, who did? No way this doesn't stem from the board who tried to test him. Its bull**** and its wrong. No horse racing board has the legal authority to violate his rights and his confidentialty and privacy privileges. legal authorities and law enforcement members do but not a horse racing board.

Sure they do. And what Dr/Patient privilege was violated?

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Sure they do. And what Dr/Patient privilege was violated?

Well since no statement was given by Pval, his lawyer or his agent, it wasn't them who leaked this. Now who did? Give me a break, you can try and play devil's advocate if you wish but noone is going to believe that a board member didn't leak this. And thats 10000% unethical.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well since no statement was given by Pval, his lawyer or his agent, it wasn't them who leaked this. Now who did? Give me a break, you can try and play devil's advocate if you wish but noone is going to believe that a board member didn't leak this. And thats 10000% unethical.

Well the USA I live in is one that a person is innocent until proven guilty. I dont think we live in the same USA.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Well the USA I live in is one that a person is innocent until proven guilty. I dont think we live in the same USA.

Where have I ever said anything to the contrary?

I'm not sure how his *doctor/patient* privilege was violated. Anything that is being said in this thread is just rumor and supposition.

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P Val brought a lot of this on himself when he agreed to the lengthy interview piece that he did with DRF back a couple years ago.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Last time I checked we didn't have gulags and last time I checked Dr/Patient confidentiality privileges still applied. Now if they went to test him and he was in a health facility they had no MOTHER****** right to announce or leak anything to anyone. NONE. They do hav the right to ask him for an explanation or a test when he gets out and ban him, but since he or his gaent didn't leak this, who did? No way this doesn't stem from the board who tried to test him. Its bull**** and its wrong. No horse racing board has the legal authority to violate his rights and his confidentialty and privacy privileges. legal authorities and law enforcement members do but not a horse racing board.

Are you an attorney?

Originally Posted by Society Selection

Are you an attorney?

No, but I think its pretty clear that he got screwed by someone. You don't have to be an attorney to know that Dr/Patient privileges apply and unless the CHRB has the authority to walk up to citizens and arrest them, I don't think they have the power to violate his rights. Call me nuts but I kinda love the whole USA and freedoms and rights thing that we have had going for 230 years. I think its kind nice to have those.

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Originally Posted by Society Selection

Are you an attorney?

No...but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.