Fastest injury recovery ever?

[Indian Charlie]

I just got a stable mail entry for Fabulous Strike, who is entered in a non graded sprint at MNR this weekend. Wasn't his foot all messed up just a few days ago??

My opinion of trainers keeps getting lower.

[Kasept]

"Entered" doesn't mean "runs".. Could enter hoping that he's healthy enough to run.

Why would there be an issue that Beattie wants to get a prep start in BEFORE the horse runs in the Forego?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He's coupled with another Beattie horse and Whitney is named on both.

Perhaps entering FS and not scratching him until as late as possible might also be a clever ploy to reduce the field size.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My opinion of trainers keeps getting lower.

As low as jockeys?

[Indian Charlie]

Lower.

While jocks I tend to view as having no brains, trainers seem to be full of shi.t.

I'd rather deal with people who are stupid than dishonest and disingenuous.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Lower.

While jocks I tend to view as having no brains, trainers seem to be full of shi.t.

I'd rather deal with people who are stupid than dishonest and disingenuous.

This is a classic! That implys that all trainers arent stupid (not true) and that my friend is a compliment. We seem to think that people who believe what is written in the racing form as news as closer to the naive side than stupid. I wonder how you know exactly what is going on enough to call people liars.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'd rather deal with people who are stupid than dishonest and disingenuous.

honesty and ingenuousness are overrated.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I just got a stable mail entry for Fabulous Strike, who is entered in a non graded sprint at MNR this weekend. Wasn't his foot all messed up just a few days ago??

My opinion of trainers keeps getting lower.

paid workout

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is a classic! That implys that all trainers arent stupid (not true) and that my friend is a compliment. We seem to think that people who believe what is written in the racing form as news as closer to the naive side than stupid. I wonder how you know exactly what is going on enough to call people liars.

I wasn't speaking in absolutes dude, as evidenced by my wording. This perhaps puts you into the sub-group of trainers that isn't complimented by my previous post.

As for the inane point you make about knowing exactly what is going on enough to call people liars? Let's see if your trainer mind can handle this logic.

1. The trainer of Fabulous Strike (FS) scratches out of the race at Saratoga citing an injury that will keep him from racing for at least about a month.

2. Two to three days later he enters the same horse in another race.

Even to the most lame brained trainer out there, this can really only mean one of two things. First, the trainer lied about the injury and is ducking the race. Second, there really is an injury, but as postulated by someone else that trainer is using this horse in the second race as a way of scaring away competition so that the other horse he's entered has a better chance of winning.

Are you still able to follow me thus far?

I will spell this out for you in the most basic way I can so that you understand how I know a trainer is lying.

If the first instance is true, the lie is obvious and self evident.
If it's the second instance, he is, while not necessarily lying, using deceit if he has no intention of running his horse. In my straightforward way of dealing with people, using deceit or being dishonest is the same thing as lying, and that cop out people like to use of "It's just business" is bullshi.t.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

honesty and ingenuousness are overrated.

Yeah dude, that's become really obvious.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

paid workout

There is that, but the race this weekend would have been as well, if he was sound enough to run.

[Danzig]

perhaps the injury was very slight, not something to take on tougher competition with? but the horse can race, so warm him up against lesser horses?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

In my straightforward way of dealing with people, using deceit or being dishonest is the same thing as lying, and that cop out people like to use of "It's just business" is bullshi.t.

He wanted to make up a BS story to duck the mighty Abraaj.

Isn't that obvious?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I wasn't speaking in absolutes dude, as evidenced by my wording. This perhaps puts you into the sub-group of trainers that isn't complimented by my previous post.

As for the inane point you make about knowing exactly what is going on enough to call people liars? Let's see if your trainer mind can handle this logic.

1. The trainer of Fabulous Strike (FS) scratches out of the race at Saratoga citing an injury that will keep him from racing for at least about a month.

2. Two to three days later he enters the same horse in another race.

Even to the most lame brained trainer out there, this can really only mean one of two things. First, the trainer lied about the injury and is ducking the race. Second, there really is an injury, but as postulated by someone else that trainer is using this horse in the second race as a way of scaring away competition so that the other horse he's entered has a better chance of winning.

Are you still able to follow me thus far?

I will spell this out for you in the most basic way I can so that you understand how I know a trainer is lying.

If the first instance is true, the lie is obvious and self evident.
If it's the second instance, he is, while not necessarily lying, using deceit if he has no intention of running his horse. In my straightforward way of dealing with people, using deceit or being dishonest is the same thing as lying, and that cop out people like to use of "It's just business" is bullshi.t.

And do you know the circumstances surrounding any of the trainers comments or motives? No. In case you didnt understand we pay to enter stakes and have the discretion to scratch anytime up to 45 minutes before posttime without any reason.

Let me spell this out to you, as long as you are getting your information from the racing form and bloodhorse you are as good as in the dark about what is really going on. I'm sure the Patriots listing Brady as having a shoulder injury for 48 consecutive weeks send you into a rage also.

Did you ever consider that perhaps the initial diagnosis was incorrect?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah.

Did you ever consider that perhaps the initial diagnosis was incorrect?

Do you mean the one in which I implied that trainers are stupid?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Do you mean the one in which I implied that trainers are stupid?

You bet hard earned money (It isnt easy standing in that unemployement line) on drugged up horses trained by dishonest trainers and ridden by no brain jockeys and we are the stupid ones?

[exquisitequine]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You bet hard earned money (It isnt easy standing in that unemployement line) on drugged up horses trained by dishonest trainers and ridden by no brain jockeys and we are the stupid ones?

ouch.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by exquisitequine

ouch.

He asked for it...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You bet hard earned money (It isnt easy standing in that unemployement line) on drugged up horses trained by dishonest trainers and ridden by no brain jockeys and we are the stupid ones?

I believe this is known as the "Mullins defense"

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

I believe this is known as the "Mullins defense"

There is a hint of truth to it if you actually believe this is the case. I read in the paper that Iran is giving up their nuclear program too...