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Old 07-29-2008, 08:47 AM
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Joe,

Should have been in 1:51.0 (or so)...

Andy, CJ or DougS can answer better, but at 9f, I believe each Beyer point is about a half length, so 120-112 appears to be a fair spread.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:12 AM
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I thought that was a little high also, some of the spa numbers throughout the years seem to lean that way. When Left Bank won the Whitney I think he got a 121 and the 4th place horse got a 116...This is all by memory so...the numbers may be a little fuzzy.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:13 AM
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I thought that was a little high also, some of the spa numbers throughout the years seem to lean that way. When Left Bank won the Whitney I think he got a 121 and the 4th place horse got a 116...This is all by memory so...the numbers may be a little fuzzy.
Left Bank ran the race in 1:47.04
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:47 PM
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The Commentator number, according to other figure makers I spoke to, was pretty straight forward. I thought it seemed a little low considering he ran 3 seconds faster than Ginger Punch.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:51 PM
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It was a few points high if anything.

In Lawyers Ron's case last year - when he won the Whitney by 9 - he ran 2 4/5ths faster than Ginger Punch did in the race prior as well.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:18 PM
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Joe,

Should have been in 1:51.0 (or so)...

Andy, CJ or DougS can answer better, but at 9f, I believe each Beyer point is about a half length, so 120-112 appears to be a fair spread.
I believe it's 1.6 Beyer points per length at 9fs.

Student Council was rank early at the back of the pack, 3 wide on both turns, and seemed pretty uncomfortable while a ton of dirt was being kicked back into his face down the backside - running a 112 Beyer without getting any help from Tasteyville and without having an easy trip was quite an impressive accomplishment for a horse who isn't much.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:29 PM
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I believe it's 1.6 Beyer points per length at 9fs.

Student Council was rank early at the back of the pack, 3 wide on both turns, and seemed pretty uncomfortable while a ton of dirt was being kicked back into his face down the backside - running a 112 Beyer without getting any help from Tasteyville and without having an easy trip was quite an impressive accomplishment for a horse who isn't much.
Where do you think Commentator would have finished in the Left Bank, Lido Palace, SC, MU Whitney given the assigned winning beyers are so close together.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:00 PM
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It was a few points high if anything.

In Lawyers Ron's case last year - when he won the Whitney by 9 - he ran 2 4/5ths faster than Ginger Punch did in the race prior as well.
I agree, it was a little high. The pace, while uncontested, was hardly slow for that distance.
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