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Old 08-16-2006, 08:13 AM
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People who criticize Lava Man for not winning out of his home state absolutely crack me up. Actually criticizing a horse thats one multiple grade ones this year on 2 different surfaces. Flower Alley rests all winter and cant even be competitive in a race on his bread and butter track. Granted, Invasor is a nice horse and Sun King has really improved, but not even to hit the board in a race you have been targeting for months and months? Wow.
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:16 AM
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People who criticize Lava Man for not winning out of his home state absolutely crack me up. Actually criticizing a horse thats one multiple grade ones this year on 2 different surfaces. Flower Alley rests all winter and cant even be competitive in a race on his bread and butter track. Granted, Invasor is a nice horse and Sun King has really improved, but not even to hit the board in a race you have been targeting for months and months? Wow.

Same thing with Surf Cat, Tim. I don't give a rats ass if he has all his wins in Cali. as long as he keeps racking up the wins and the $$$
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:23 AM
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Big difference Kev. You know I love Surf Cat and his talent. But he needs to get on the racetrack, any racetrack and win a significant race. To date, I dont think hes won more than one significant race. Hope to see that soon.
As for Lava Man, another weekend, another old warrior to root for. Sunday he is expected to add another grade 1 to his resume and I believe he will do it in dramatic fashion. Its one thing for Giacomo to get past Preachinatthebar, but quite another for him to go by (up to this point) the horse of the year.
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:43 AM
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Big difference Kev. You know I love Surf Cat and his talent. But he needs to get on the racetrack, any racetrack and win a significant race. To date, I dont think hes won more than one significant race. Hope to see that soon.
As for Lava Man, another weekend, another old warrior to root for. Sunday he is expected to add another grade 1 to his resume and I believe he will do it in dramatic fashion. Its one thing for Giacomo to get past Preachinatthebar, but quite another for him to go by (up to this point) the horse of the year.

Im sorry he is out too....I think SC would give Lava Man everything he wanted and then some.
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:48 AM
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Kev- Did you see my PM to you? WHat do you think his odds will be?
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:49 AM
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Kev- Did you see my PM to you? WHat do you think his odds will be?
the one from yesterday about SJ? Let me look it over..
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:59 AM
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Kev- Did you see my PM to you? WHat do you think his odds will be?

Tim...there isn't a horse in that race that would scare me. I like to see that Bejerano sticks with him, but the outside posts is the only thing that concerns me. He looks to me to have enough early speed to clear them all and he may just do that and not look back. 4-1 ML....I think you will be lucky to get 2-1 on him. I just don't see much else in the race putting pressure on him early.

IMO...A non-wagering race unless you get 4-1 and that just will not happen.
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Old 08-16-2006, 09:07 AM
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I agree 100% Kev. Not the kind of horse I want at anything under 4/1 and if he doesnt make the lead, he has zero shot. No thanks for me. I'll wait until Friday.
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:49 AM
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SC aint doing bad...he has won:

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I know it ain't much, but he can only go where Headley sends him. I hate that he is hurt, I think he could have had a very big summer/fall this year starting with a win in the Pac Classic. I know you like him alot too. I just love to watch that burst of speed when he turns it on.
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Old 08-16-2006, 03:14 PM
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Im sorry he is out too....I think SC would give Lava Man everything he wanted and then some.
Didn't Surf Cat run in the 2005 Big 'Cap?
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Old 08-16-2006, 03:21 PM
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Didn't Surf Cat run in the 2005 Big 'Cap?

He did Mood...as a 3yo...big mistaked IMO on Headleys part, but I guess he didn't want to ship him east. I pressed the pace for the great majority of the race last year.

I think he is TONS better as a 4YO this year and would give them all they wanted.
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Old 08-16-2006, 03:24 PM
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He did Mood...as a 3yo...big mistaked IMO on Headleys part, but I guess he didn't want to ship him east. I pressed the pace for the great majority of the race last year.

I think he is TONS better as a 4YO this year and would give them all they wanted.

He never ran in the Santa Anita Handicap....it was the Pacific Classic
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:56 PM
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People who criticize Lava Man for not winning out of his home state absolutely crack me up. Actually criticizing a horse thats one multiple grade ones this year on 2 different surfaces. Flower Alley rests all winter and cant even be competitive in a race on his bread and butter track. Granted, Invasor is a nice horse and Sun King has really improved, but not even to hit the board in a race you have been targeting for months and months? Wow.

I'm with you, because even if Lava Man doesn't win, he literally runs his heart out trying, like last years Pacific Classic, that race more than any of his others showed me how much heart and class Lava Man has, he got a ridiculously bad ride running into an insane pace and he still desperately tried to the effect of his own health, he was literally exhausted and almost collapsed, give me that horse over Flower Alley any day of the week.
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:09 PM
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People who criticize Lava Man for not winning out of his home state absolutely crack me up. Actually criticizing a horse thats one multiple grade ones this year on 2 different surfaces. Flower Alley rests all winter and cant even be competitive in a race on his bread and butter track. Granted, Invasor is a nice horse and Sun King has really improved, but not even to hit the board in a race you have been targeting for months and months? Wow.
true true true...
and i also got a kick out of the criticism that lava man barely won his last...hell, maybe he bounced in that race, yet still won. after all, that is the point, to win! and he's done that all year. the pacific this weekend only whetting my appetite for when the man and invasor lock horns at churchill.
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