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[Quiet Chris]

The 120 beyer would be believable if it didn't mean Student Council ran a 112. No way that horse is running a 112.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

The 120 beyer would be believable if it didn't mean Student Council ran a 112. No way that horse is running a 112.

I can think of a couple of hundred races that I'd expect to get a 120 before the Whitney.

Probably thousands before a 112 that Student Council got.

[cmorioles]

Would anybody really be surprised that an Asmussen suddenly ran a huge race?

[hockey2315]

But it's not like Student Council was a new acquisition or a young horse.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

But it's not like Student Council was a new acquisition or a young horse.

It is his first try on fast dirt with Asmussen.

[hockey2315]

That's a fair point - it's note entirely factual but I know what you're saying. . . He never ran 113s for Cerin, though.

[10 pnt move up]

Student Council is a dog, and if not for polytrack at del mar would be running in 3x, I cant take that horse serious.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's a fair point - it's note entirely factual but I know what you're saying. . . He never ran 113s for Cerin, though.

I missed that he had him for the initial Hawthorne race. Even then, the pace was a crawl and he overcame it. It was really not possible to run fast with that setup.

As for Cerin, he isn't even close to Asmussen.

It is widely known that horses tend to run bigger numbers on dirt when running well then other surfaces. The horse ran around 102 on synthetics, so is it really that far fetched to think he could run around 110 on dirt?

I'm not saying he did or didn't. I haven't looked at the card. I'm just saying you have to look at these things in depth and not base opinions on general impressions.