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Old 07-27-2008, 09:24 AM
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Please put us out of our misery. What a terrible card of turf races for a Sunday at SAR. Where the **** are all the good turf horses/races? Running at AP (and even MTH), I'd guess.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:31 AM
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Please put us out of our misery. What a terrible card of turf races for a Sunday at SAR. Where the **** are all the good turf horses/races? Running at AP (and even MTH), I'd guess.

You really have to think things through sometimes. First of all.......where are all these supposed good horses to fill all these supposed good races? Second of all, with all the rain in the forecast, as well as rain we have already had, it's not that simple to card turf races. You almost have to card them in a manner that keeps them somewhat intact if they come off the grass.

How did things go during your tenure as racing secretary?
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:49 AM
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You really have to think things through sometimes. First of all.......where are all these supposed good horses to fill all these supposed good races? Second of all, with all the rain in the forecast, as well as rain we have already had, it's not that simple to card turf races. You almost have to card them in a manner that keeps them somewhat intact if they come off the grass.

How did things go during your tenure as racing secretary?
Listen. Even a HOMIE like you would probably agree, in a rare objective state, that the turf races carded so far have SUCKED. With the exception of the two very competitive filly stakes, the rest have been even worse than what we were subjected to the last 2 weeks or so at BEL. Compare them to the 1st week's races last year.

I realize there's MUCH competition for the good turf horses: AP, DMR, MTH, WO, DEL, ELP, CNL, etc.

In fact, I'd venture that AP is presently offering the BEST turf racing. Am I happy about this? Do I really want to get in there with horses I don't know, and try to beat what ultimately become calvary charges in large fields? Of course not.

I feel like I'm back at GP.
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:22 AM
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The meet is a few days old, we have had ten inches of rain in less than a week, and you have declared the turf racing the equivalent of GP.

Is it me?
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:11 PM
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The meet is a few days old, we have had ten inches of rain in less than a week, and you have declared the turf racing the equivalent of GP.

Is it me?
NO!
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:17 PM
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The meet is a few days old, we have had ten inches of rain in less than a week, and you have declared the turf racing the equivalent of GP.

Is it me?
I appreciate the 'brave' front. And you can get as many of the less informed on this forum to agree with you as you want BUT, as someone whose turf opinion is every bit as good or better than my own, I know that it must be getting to you. The TURF RACING IN NY could be so much better than it has been recently. And, the rain has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's probably a combination of poor work on the part of Campo AND, more importantly, less available horses. People aren't shipping in the way they once did.

So, anyone interested in competitive turf races needs to play multiple tracks, where, in the past, at this time of the year, the place to be was (almost exclusively) NYRA.
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:25 PM
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Too bad you can't combine Saratoga racing and Del Mar weather.
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:28 PM
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Whine whine whine whine whine guffaw whine whine *thump chest* whine whine
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:16 AM
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Made for some comical situations Saturday evening. Couldn't get out of the building it was raining so hard, so the hardy patrons still there at about 7 took over the Jim Dandy bar and started pouring beers for anyone. (note to NYRA: don't leave open taps unattended... or do and I won't tell.) Rain finally broke, and the scurry was on for Siro's or the Horseshoe, and I swear there was a chance some children could have gotten lost in the ponds by the clubhouse turn. Of course, as soon as we reached the 'shoe parking lot, it opened up again to Ark-levels.

The fact that they haven't had a (non-jump) race cancelled and they even managed to keep two on the grass Sunday is pretty amazing.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:32 PM
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Made for some comical situations Saturday evening. Couldn't get out of the building it was raining so hard, so the hardy patrons still there at about 7 took over the Jim Dandy bar and started pouring beers for anyone. (note to NYRA: don't leave open taps unattended... or do and I won't tell.) Rain finally broke, and the scurry was on for Siro's or the Horseshoe, and I swear there was a chance some children could have gotten lost in the ponds by the clubhouse turn. Of course, as soon as we reached the 'shoe parking lot, it opened up again to Ark-levels.

The fact that they haven't had a (non-jump) race cancelled and they even managed to keep two on the grass Sunday is pretty amazing.
Welcome to my life in Florida every day during the summer.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:57 AM
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Welcome to my life in Florida every day during the summer.

Cajun you should have seen the storm Saturday night... I dont know if I've ever seen one like it in FL (eventhough I'm sure hurricanes are worse!!).

I swear every lightening bolt was hitting the ground... it was unreal. I heard it rained like 6 inches.
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