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Old 08-15-2006, 04:04 PM
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Hope he gets the help he needs. Seems like a nice guy. Doubt he'll ever ride again.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:20 PM
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Hope he gets the help he needs. Seems like a nice guy. Doubt he'll ever ride again.
That has been said before. The Steve Howe of horse racing.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:29 PM
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Throw him out of racing. It is simple. Racing needs to make a statement here. Throw him out and increase the weight limits. SIMPLE.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:08 PM
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chapter 27 of pvals bio...reads much like the first 26, on the wagon, off the wagon, trouble, chrb, treatment, back to riding...
that door that he keeps getting tossed out of--it's a revolving door, he'll be back for yet another go round.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:17 PM
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chapter 27 of pvals bio...reads much like the first 26, on the wagon, off the wagon, trouble, chrb, treatment, back to riding...
that door that he keeps getting tossed out of--it's a revolving door, he'll be back for yet another go round.
Time is catching up to Pat. He's only got a few more years anyway. The real problem for him is what does he do when it is really over? Write a book!
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:12 PM
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Throw him out of racing. It is simple. Racing needs to make a statement here. Throw him out and increase the weight limits. SIMPLE.
Racing needs to make a lot of statements, and I don't put harshly punishing PVal at the top of the list. How about something more than a meaningless short suspension for trainers who cheat, for example?

PVal is certifiably sick. That doesn't excuse his behavior, but it does make me somewhat sympathetic. The trainers that are cheating have no excuse except greed.

I do agree with increasing the weight limits for jockeys.

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Old 08-15-2006, 05:20 PM
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Racing needs to make a lot of statements, and I don't put harshly punishing PVal at the top of the list. How about something more than a meaningless short suspension for trainers who cheat, for example?

PVal is certifiably sick. That doesn't excuse his behavior, but it does make me somewhat sympathetic. The trainers that are cheating have no excuse except greed.

I do agree with increasing the weight limits for jockeys.

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I agree with you about P Val. I would forgive him before I would forgive cheating trainers. He's only hurting himself. In addition, as long as he's tested every day and he's clean while he's riding, that is the main thing as far as I'm concerned. If he takes off for a few weeks, I'm not sure that it is necessarily anyone's business what he's doing while he's not riding.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:12 PM
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I agree with you about P Val. I would forgive him before I would forgive cheating trainers. He's only hurting himself. In addition, as long as he's tested every day and he's clean while he's riding, that is the main thing as far as I'm concerned. If he takes off for a few weeks, I'm not sure that it is necessarily anyone's business what he's doing while he's not riding.
Now that they are going to legalize personal use drugs in Mexico Pat can vacation for a month are blame it on Cabo San Lukas.
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:59 AM
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Now that they are going to legalize personal use drugs in Mexico Pat can vacation for a month are blame it on Cabo San Lukas.
I have actually wondered what would happen if he wanted to take a 3 week vacation somewhere. Would the CHRB insist on him being tested even in another city?
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:08 PM
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Hope he gets the help he needs. Seems like a nice guy. Doubt he'll ever ride again.
Pat is a very likable character. I don't know what drug, drugs pat has a problem with, but they can be a real monster for some people. I wish anybody that wants to clean up all the luck and best to recovery. For me it's simple Smoker or Non smoker. Drugs or No drugs. The choice is yours.
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