great takeout article

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

what does that have to do with the "churn" that lower takeout produces?

Your comparison of Poker betting and horse betting. Your not able to keep your money longer in poker strictly because of the lower take but because of the different nature of the bets.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your comparison of Poker betting and horse betting. Your not able to keep your money longer in poker strictly because of the lower take but because of the different nature of the bets.

So entertainment dollar here.

I have a 1000 dollars, I lose it in a aweek at the horses, where I lose it over 6 months in poker, but I should be more inclined to entertain myself for the week because of the big score?

I just dont think that the wagering model is working with higher takeouts in horse racing, what do you think?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

So entertainment dollar here.

I have a 1000 dollars, I lose it in a aweek at the horses, where I lose it over 6 months in poker, but I should be more inclined to entertain myself for the week because of the big score?

I just dont think that the wagering model is working with higher takeouts in horse racing, what do you think?

Your logic is unusual. If you want to stretch your "entertainment" dollar, rent movies. As for the gambling dollar, yeah horse racing is a much better bet than poker despite the takeout. Because you lose slower at Poker it is a better bet? What difference does it make if you are assuming a loss anyway. The thing is that there is virtually no way that you can make a big score at Poker. You can do that on pretty much any card at a semi major track pretty much everyday of the week. I agree that takeouts are too high in most cases but unlike poker there are a lot of other mouths to feed from the horseracing dollar and the comparison is kind of an apples and oranges thing.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I would be in complete agreement with every word Cannon typed...

But Freddy says he makes good money playing poker. So Poker has to be the much easier game to win at.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I would be in complete agreement with every word Cannon typed...

But Freddy says he makes good money playing poker. So Poker has to be the much easier game to win at.

People who make money playing poker never tell...

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

People who make money playing poker never tell...

How about people who make money betting horses?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your logic is unusual. If you want to stretch your "entertainment" dollar, rent movies. As for the gambling dollar, yeah horse racing is a much better bet than poker despite the takeout. Because you lose slower at Poker it is a better bet? What difference does it make if you are assuming a loss anyway. The thing is that there is virtually no way that you can make a big score at Poker. You can do that on pretty much any card at a semi major track pretty much everyday of the week. I agree that takeouts are too high in most cases but unlike poker there are a lot of other mouths to feed from the horseracing dollar and the comparison is kind of an apples and oranges thing.

which is why (for me) it is actually easier to make money playing poker than the horses.

i can play online where the rake is minimal because there's no brick and mortar, dealer salary, floor manager salary, shift supervisor salary, floor runner, or the expectation to tip any of them.

i can choose my table and assessing the talent of my opponents is easy with the tracking websites.

i can't choose to play against the worst horseplayers. i get the whole bucket. and i'm expected to pay the groom, hotwalker, jock, trainer, track operator, state licensing agency, and god knows who else off the rake.

all i have to do is put up with endless conspiracy theories as to why online poker is fixed by the losers. that and pay 5% on ring games and 10% on tournament entries. and there are ways to get rakeback.

you have to have a passion to crack horseracing. anyone with patience, minimal talant, and a 3 digit iq can win at poker.