Desormeaux Ends 0 for 54 Skid

[Gander]

Believe me, Desormeaux does not ride 54 horses without a chance. Its not like this guy rides for low % trainers. He rides for Frankel and Clement.
Not sure if Pletcher rides the guy, I dont think he ever does. And now I know why.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

Believe me, Desormeaux does not ride 54 horses without a chance. Its not like this guy rides for low % trainers. He rides for Frankel and Clement.
Not sure if Pletcher rides the guy, I dont think he ever does. And now I know why.

Pletcher actually rode him on a horse Saturday when many of the other jocks were out of town.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by Gander

Believe me, Desormeaux does not ride 54 horses without a chance. Its not like this guy rides for low % trainers. He rides for Frankel and Clement.
Not sure if Pletcher rides the guy, I dont think he ever does. And now I know why.

True and I heard Frankel was pissed at Kent D and chewed his agent out the other day at his barn after one of Kent D's ride where he decided that he'd ride the horse his way instead of what Frankel told him to do; he ended getting stuck behind horses and running 3rd or 4th and I dont think Clement was too confident in him for the Sword Dancer. Kent has been absolutely horrendous and it has been to my advantage to toss out any horse that he's on unless that horse laid over the field.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Gander

Believe me, Desormeaux does not ride 54 horses without a chance. Its not like this guy rides for low % trainers. He rides for Frankel and Clement.
Not sure if Pletcher rides the guy, I dont think he ever does. And now I know why.

Frankel and Clement's barns at Toga arent exactly massive. And its not like Kent rides first call on all of their horses.

Kent was riding like **** during this streak...no way to defend that. But at the same time, all riders go through that and its not like he was blowing chalk every other race. Some of those horses simply didnt have a chance. In trying to establish himself in the east, Kent is taking mounts he wouldnt have taken on the west coast.

He is a good rider and does anyone want to bet that he finishes with a pct in the teens?

As for the ride on Relaxed Gesture, kent got stuck in no mans land. His horse broke really sharply and there was no pace. If he would have ridden on the lead the whole way, everyone would have asked why he was on the lead. The horse wouldnt relax and he did what he could. Some of you act as if Relaxed Gesture never burned money. This horse is a money burning machine regardless of who is riding. Kent's ride certainly wasnt optimal but give some credit to the horse too.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Frankel and Clement's barns at Toga arent exactly massive. And its not like Kent rides first call on all of their horses.

Kent was riding like **** during this streak...no way to defend that. But at the same time, all riders go through that and its not like he was blowing chalk every other race. Some of those horses simply didnt have a chance. In trying to establish himself in the east, Kent is taking mounts he wouldnt have taken on the west coast.

He is a good rider and does anyone want to bet that he finishes with a pct in the teens?

As for the ride on Relaxed Gesture, kent got stuck in no mans land. His horse broke really sharply and there was no pace. If he would have ridden on the lead the whole way, everyone would have asked why he was on the lead. The horse wouldnt relax and he did what he could. Some of you act as if Relaxed Gesture never burned money. This horse is a money burning machine regardless of who is riding. Kent's ride certainly wasnt optimal but give some credit to the horse too.

As I said before, I can't criticize Kent for taking Relaxed Gesture back going into the clubhouse turn. I think that was the smart thing to do. You don't want to go head and head on the lead in a 1 1/2 mile race. For that matter, you really don't want to go head and head on the lead in any route race, especially on a horse that's not even a speed horse.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

As I said before, I can't criticize Kent for taking Relaxed Gesture back going into the clubhouse turn. I think that was the smart thing to do. You don't want to go head and head on the lead in a 1 1/2 mile race. For that matter, you really don't want to go head and head on the lead in any route race, especially on a horse that's not even a speed horse.

What about for taking the horse straight to the lead? That's not thehorse's running style?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash

What about for taking the horse straight to the lead? That's not thehorse's running style?

I don't think he planned on going to the lead and I don't think he really tried to go to the lead. He broke good and there was absolutely no pace early and he found himself on the lead. That happens sometimes. Even if you have a horse that has never been anywehre near the lead in his life, if they go slow enough he can end up on the lead. It 's only a bad ride if a horse is on the lead and is going much faster than he normally goes. Relaxed Gesture is a horse who usually runs the half in :48 and change or :49. In the race on Saturday they went the half in :49 1/5 and he found himself on the lead. He's gone to the lead before. In the Man O War last year at Belmont, he was on the lead going :48 3/5. He ran 2nd that day.