7/19 (BEL): Coaching Club American Oaks (Gr. I)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

But I am saying she is far from "not much" and "utterly mediocre". She's got over $500,000 this year so far. I wish I owned a mediocre horse like that.

While I think Sheik Hamden has the best interests of the game at heart, his Brother, Sheik Mo, tends to do all sorts of things that only deter a good horse from developing further. Barrier Reef, Day Pass, Etched, Unbridled Heart and on and on. So, really not an excuse.

Ah yes, the old "horse has earned X amount, I'd like to own a 'mediocrity' like that and so would you" argument that proves.. Nothing.

And what did Godolphin do with Unbridled's Heart that "deterred him from developing further"?

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Ah yes, the old "horse has earned X amount, I'd like to own a 'mediocrity' like that and so would you" argument that proves.. Nothing.

And what did Godolphin do with Unbridled's Heart that "deterred him from developing further"?

I sorta don't know what to make of all this. If someone disagree's with a certain line of thinking they are "classic" cases and are focused on to look foolish as ateamstupid suggests here. I thought the game was great because you can never understand it totally. That there is always more to learn. If that is true, than how can anyone be so absolute about their thinking?
And A-Team, if you want to take Unbridled's Heart out of my point please do. Then if you still think I am wrong, well maybe I am. But maybe I'm not. But if you think I am wrong about Godolphin, tell me why. Don't pick one single aspect out and tell me to defend my entire argument. I am just surprised that the handicappers who are very good and knowledgable, including you Steve, think nothing of jumping on someone's thinking. I thought this would be a place where my handicapping could improve and I could learn from you guys. But I really don't want to have to take a load of **** to get there.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I sorta don't know what to make of all this. If someone disagree's with a certain line of thinking they are "classic" cases and are focused on to look foolish as ateamstupid suggests here. I thought the game was great because you can never understand it totally. That there is always more to learn. If that is true, than how can anyone be so absolute about their thinking?
And A-Team, if you want to take Unbridled's Heart out of my point please do. Then if you still think I am wrong, well maybe I am. But maybe I'm not. But if you think I am wrong about Godolphin, tell me why. Don't pick one single aspect out and tell me to defend my entire argument. I am just surprised that the handicappers who are very good and knowledgable, including you Steve, think nothing of jumping on someone's thinking. I thought this would be a place where my handicapping could improve and I could learn from you guys. But I really don't want to have to take a load of **** to get there.

Truthfully, I don't know enough about the Barrief Reef, Day Pass or Etched situations to opine on whether you're right or wrong there. You still haven't answered how Godolphin's management of Unbridled's Heart proves your point. You decided to use him as an example, you should be able to back it up, no?

If I make a point, I expect someone to question me if I'm making a weak argument (as Andy, mainly, usually does so wonderfully). I think you're taking this too personally. I thought your arguments were flimsy as to why Little Belle was a good horse and how Godolphin has been mismanaging their three-year-olds, so I called you on it. Feel free to do the same to me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Part of the problem is that Little Belle was trained by Kiaran McKlaughlin and you are excessively biased towards his barn. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Part of the problem is that Little Belle was trained by Kiaran McKlaughlin and you are excessively biased towards his barn. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

LOL...Anyways, for a race with 4 betting interests, there is a lot of writing about it.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL...Anyways, for a race with 4 betting interests, there is a lot of writing about it.

Yeah, kind weird. Acoma could easily be head and shoulders above the rest but if she doesn't like the distance then it would seem to set up Music Note. I'm of the camp that whether Acoma is good enough or not, it won't be Little Belle winning it. Sucks that to take a stand against Little Belle you have to bet against Music Note as well. Makes the race totally unbettable and is why I hate coupling entries.

[cowgirlintexas]

Just for all this talk of Little Belle being "mediocore", I am hoping she romps today just so it throws all of you into a tizzy
She really is a nice little filly that like Cappy says, runs her heart out everytime. Go Belle!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Truthfully, I don't know enough about the Barrief Reef, Day Pass or Etched situations to opine on whether you're right or wrong there.

The Byk influence

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Byk influence

I've been saying opine since knee high. Steve is above using words that can be found in a dictionary. He would've used some Etruscan era type word that would've sounded way cooler.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I am just surprised that the handicappers who are very good and knowledgable, including you Steve, think nothing of jumping on someone's thinking. I thought this would be a place where my handicapping could improve and I could learn from you guys. But I really don't want to have to take a load of **** to get there.

No one was jumping on your thinking, but my apologies anyway.