Dodgers

SCUDSBROTHER · #1 08-15-2006, 03:11 AM

"...all he's been thru""

??????????? What???? He cheated,and got found out.What ever he has been through is because he is a cheat to begin with.I don't get people that feel sorry for a cheat like him.I don't know why somebody would bring up the fact that he used steroids,but maybe they don't like the fact that he took stuff to cheat with.Maybe they don't like cheats,and are still pssd at him.I just know that there is no reason to feel sorry for him.

timmgirvan · #2 08-15-2006, 03:23 AM

Scudsie: there there..I was just saying that in this society...that wasn't cheating..it was gamesmanship or brinksmanship..but he broke no baseball rules! What he is doing now is pure baseball and skill. At least he didn't PUNK OUT like Big Mac...who turned into MCGriddle. He didn't get found out...He testified..let's not split hairs...I have few left! I think its' fashionable to bash those steriod bullies...while the rest of the drugs in sports have free rein. Giambi got alot of heat, and was fortunate that the Yankees in front office and in dugout supported him.

timmgirvan · #3 08-15-2006, 03:27 AM

Scuds: are you taking a break from the horses for awhile? I don't think I've seen you talk about your plays for weeks

SCUDSBROTHER · #4 08-15-2006, 04:31 AM

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Scuds: are you taking a break from the horses for awhile? I don't think I've seen you talk about your plays for weeks

Well,I am not the horseracing addict that many thought,huh?? A little more control than many thought I had?? Well,Del Mar had 5 favorites(or co-favorites)today,and another one lost by a neck.I am not interested in that.I am not interested in watching Espinoza bring in chalk all day.Too many races which appear open,but chalk comes right in.I am not interested in playing Saratoga. I might start getting interested toward the end of these meets.For the most part,too often they hoot n' holler about some stakes,and bring in the heavy chalk,or unpredictable flukes. Just too many races that high volume trainers have total control over at very sht odds.I really feel like every single thing seems set up to make these trainers a buck,and not nearly enough is done to make sure the races are competive enough for fans to enjoy.That's the story,sir.

timmgirvan · #5 08-15-2006, 04:44 AM

Never thought you were excessive in your gambling..to the contrary..you always mentioned money management, like last week,maybe when you said to someone that when you hit a big score, you immediately took out and continued to play with original stake. Wish I'd done the same recently...

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 08-15-2006, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Never thought you were excessive in your gambling..to the contrary..you always mentioned money management, like last week,maybe when you said to someone that when you hit a big score, you immediately took out and continued to play with original stake. Wish I'd done the same recently...

You will(go back quicker to your original stake.) Takes most folks quite a while to know what to expect while betting.The longer you bet the horses,the more realistic your expectations will be(especially after you win.)

SCUDSBROTHER · #7 08-15-2006, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Scudsie: there there..I was just saying that in this society...that wasn't cheating..it was gamesmanship or brinksmanship..but he broke no baseball rules! What he is doing now is pure baseball and skill. At least he didn't PUNK OUT like Big Mac...who turned into MCGriddle. He didn't get found out...He testified..let's not split hairs...I have few left! I think its' fashionable to bash those steriod bullies...while the rest of the drugs in sports have free rein. Giambi got alot of heat, and was fortunate that the Yankees in front office and in dugout supported him.

No way I will ever agree that it wasn't cheating.Gamesmanship? Wow, sell that to some fool.Scud ain't buying that load.People who work hard, and teach their kids the same,don't appreciate it when somebody cheats.Giambi is not even 10% the jerk that Bonds is.So, I don't agree with bringing up his past all the time,but I don't feel sorry for a cheat( like you do...we just don't agree about that.)

timmgirvan · #8 08-15-2006, 04:24 AM

I never said I felt sorry for Giambi....but what he did will only be a blip in his career. And you take license, as usual, by inferring that I condone cheating at any level. Read the rest of the post...you didn't get past the first line!

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 08-15-2006, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I never said I felt sorry for Giambi....but what he did will only be a blip in his career. And you take license, as usual, by inferring that I condone cheating at any level. Read the rest of the post...you didn't get past the first line!

What you do is tell us he isn't as bad as somebody else,or what he did wasn't technically that wrong etc.Then,you say you don't condone it.Either it is wrong,and cheating,or it isn't.I find something that causes Liver Tumors (and heart problems )to be something one should be ashamed of having taken.Lyle Alzado died from a brain tumor caused by this crap.If it doesn't bother you that it is cheating,then maybe it should bother you that somebody is risking getting tumors.Seems you think people are playa-hating,but some people just really don't like the damage that steroids do.I do not think it is simply a blip on his career.Most of these guys know this stuff causes tumors,but are just selfish cheats.They take it anyways.If Rose isn't allowed into the Hall,then I sure don't want these steroid takers in there either.For one thing,his career was over when he bet baseball.These guys cheated while playing.

timmgirvan · #10 08-15-2006, 06:02 AM

Scuds: you're all over the map on this..you got answers to subjects that weren't even brought up! One by one...I said in this society(which is rampant with cheats) attention is brought upon the steriod era now. I'm not talking about medical things ...it was not in the scope of the discussion. Rose should be in the HOF as a player only and should still be banned from the sport,but that wasn't the topic. Let's just watch the games and enjoy the sport,OK?

Gander · #11 08-15-2006, 08:56 AM

Cry me a river for poor Jason Giambi. Gimmee a break. Hes a skumbag. Biggest fraud whos played the game since his buddy Mark Mcgwire. He cheated plain and simple and going further he lied to all his believing fans.

All he went through. Please, I am eating my breakfast. Dont make me sick.