The Mig ditching the left coast

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Linny

If SM says it, it's credible. He's done some guest spots on the NYC OTB show from the Spa in the past.

I think very highly of Mig and hope he gets some live horses. He's very popular around these parts.

He is popular but when he got injured it seemed to effect him when he returned. I saw him bail out more often than not when he was in close quarters on the rail. Not sure I wouldn't have done the same but the injuries did seem to effect him. He does care about the horses and if he is successful, he'll get alot of mounts. But the colony is awfully tough. Even without Go Go.

[Strategic Mission]

Nice guy but this sport isn't about nice guys. He is winning at a 10% clip. He is pushing 45 years old. Why would anyone put him on their horse if there are decent riders available. Sure he could get some decent mounts, but the guy needs to start thinking about doing something else with his life.

Hate to see guys like Samyn hanging around winning at a 7% clip, but if these guys like it that much I guess there is no reason they can't keep riding. I just hope they aren't doing it because they need the money.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

Nice guy but this sport isn't about nice guys. He is winning at a 10% clip. He is pushing 45 years old. Why would anyone put him on their horse if there are decent riders available. Sure he could get some decent mounts, but the guy needs to start thinking about doing something else with his life.

Hate to see guys like Samyn hanging around winning at a 7% clip, but if these guys like it that much I guess there is no reason they can't keep riding. I just hope they aren't doing it because they need the money.

Alot depends on the trainers you are associated with, look at Garrett Gomez, I don't think it is a coincidence that as Pletcher's win totals dropped so did Garrett's.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by CSC

Alot depends on the trainers you are associated with, look at Garrett Gomez, I don't think it is a coincidence that as Pletcher's win totals dropped so did Garrett's.

Agreed. However, Gomez had more than enough business -- good business, quality business.

Do you think if Pletcher started out with another "bad" meet at the Spa, and it was going that way -- don't you think Gomez would have plenty of other trainers to ride for? Top trainers? First call horses?

Eric

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ELA

Agreed. However, Gomez had more than enough business -- good business, quality business.

Do you think if Pletcher started out with another "bad" meet at the Spa, and it was going that way -- don't you think Gomez would have plenty of other trainers to ride for? Top trainers? First call horses?

Eric

I agree with that Eric but isnt that what happened last year? Yes, he got plenty of other trainers and he was getting plenty of horses for top trainers but he wasnt getting first call of the best of the best like you would expect from a Ron Anderson client. It seems like he was the guy in all of the barns but he wasnt getting the best of everything and leaving the rest for everyone else like he had been doing (or like he does out west).

[ELA]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I agree with that Eric but isnt that what happened last year? Yes, he got plenty of other trainers and he was getting plenty of horses for top trainers but he wasnt getting first call of the best of the best like you would expect from a Ron Anderson client. It seems like he was the guy in all of the barns but he wasnt getting the best of everything and leaving the rest for everyone else like he had been doing (or like he does out west).

I don't think it was that much different. I think the situation was very unique vis a vis Pletcher, Johnny, etc. Gomez has a different kind of business model as far as I am concerned. It's certainly a different model than Bailey. But, with that in mind, look at what happened when Ron took over Bailey's book. He took the top jock in the country -- where would you go from there? LOL. Think about what Ron did when he took on Bailey.

Anyway, I think the Gomez business model is successful. Without getting the top horse in the top barns, and of course that cuts both ways, he'll still be top 3 of money won or extremely close to it absent some distortions.

Eric

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ELA

Agreed. However, Gomez had more than enough business -- good business, quality business.

Do you think if Pletcher started out with another "bad" meet at the Spa, and it was going that way -- don't you think Gomez would have plenty of other trainers to ride for? Top trainers? First call horses?

Eric

Good question, there's plenty of competion for riders at Saratoga. When Gomez surfaced as a top rider again I believe or remember the Delmar meet being his coming out party. Perhaps that is part of his reason moving back there. Which pretty much assures Bejarano won't have things all to himself this meet.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by CSC

Good question, there's plenty of competion for riders at Saratoga. When Gomez surfaced as a top rider again I believe or remember the Delmar meet being his coming out party. Perhaps that is part of his reason moving back there. Which pretty much assures Bejarano won't have things all to himself this meet.

Yeah, that's certainly part of it. Gomez started riding well and got noticed a few important times winning a few important races. Little things go well for you, and then a big thing or two goes well, BANG! Momemtum is crucial in that part of the game. His real coming out party was getting a call Ron Anderson. With someone like Gomez, I wouldn't read too much into it. He would do super wherever he went.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

Nice guy but this sport isn't about nice guys. He is winning at a 10% clip. He is pushing 45 years old. Why would anyone put him on their horse if there are decent riders available. Sure he could get some decent mounts, but the guy needs to start thinking about doing something else with his life.

Hate to see guys like Samyn hanging around winning at a 7% clip, but if these guys like it that much I guess there is no reason they can't keep riding. I just hope they aren't doing it because they need the money.

So Migliore isn't even a decent rider? If that's what you are saying, I won't even waste keystrokes responding to such a foolish statement.

People understand that his win clip is not going to make trainers want to ride him. There are only so many 15% and 20% riders and most of the time, you have a very tough time getting them. Regardless, far more importantly, those trainers that will consider giving him business -- they won't not ride him because of his win clip either. There are only so many Gomez, Prado, Johnny V, Coa, and Cornelio jocks. Everyone only rides one. Sure, there are trainers who will ride Prado before Migliore. Plenty of them. But there are still some who will ride Migliore before Prado -- and in those cases Migliore can ride with anyone. There are several reasons those trainers will ride Migliore before Prado.

Eric