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Old 07-14-2008, 11:37 PM
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I'm going to guess that few, if any, spent more time out in the mornings than Mig.
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:38 PM
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I was just pointing out a big difference for top riders out east to west, how many does JV work? Bailey rarely worked horses, I mean 6-8 a morning.
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:49 PM
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I was just pointing out a big difference for top riders out east to west, how many does JV work? Bailey rarely worked horses, I mean 6-8 a morning.
Johnny works few horses, but that's because he has something that other jocks don't have -- his agent! Bailey worked plenty of horses in his day, for guys like Mott and Frankel. He wasn't out there working racehorses everyday as he wasn't riding a lot of them and those he was riding he didn't have to work.

I remember one weekend at the Spa, Bailey won something like two G1's, a G2, and maybe a G2 -- at the Spa, somewhere else and then back at the Spa. There he was Sunday morning, 5:30am or so, right at Frankel's barn getting up on horses.

Like him or not, personally, professionally, doesn't matter, I don't think what Bailey did or didn't do in the mornings defines what he did in the afternoons.

IMO, 6 to 8 a morning is a lot, relatively speaking.

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Old 07-14-2008, 11:51 PM
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Johnny works few horses, but that's because he has something that other jocks don't have -- his agent! Bailey worked plenty of horses in his day, for guys like Mott and Frankel. He wasn't out there working racehorses everyday as he wasn't riding a lot of them and those he was riding he didn't have to work.

I remember one weekend at the Spa, Bailey won something like two G1's, a G2, and maybe a G2 -- at the Spa, somewhere else and then back at the Spa. There he was Sunday morning, 5:30am or so, right at Frankel's barn getting up on horses.

Like him or not, personally, professionally, doesn't matter, I don't think what Bailey did or didn't do in the mornings defines what he did in the afternoons.

IMO, 6 to 8 a morning is a lot, relatively speaking.

Eric
that was my point, Bajarano, Nakatani, Solis, etc, you know the "made" guys have to do that out west. The last time Bailey worked six he was probably 25, the trainers dont care about who you are, to get mounts you have to work the horses.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:00 AM
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that was my point, Bajarano, Nakatani, Solis, etc, you know the "made" guys have to do that out west. The last time Bailey worked six he was probably 25, the trainers dont care about who you are, to get mounts you have to work the horses.
Bailey worked horses, regularly, throughout his career. Maybe the last time you saw him work horses was when he was 25, but he worked a few after that. Maybe 6 to 8, but perhaps not much more, LOL.

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Old 07-15-2008, 12:28 AM
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I've been watching Richard Migliore ride since the high days when John Kimmel was in, and for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't get more quality mounts. I counted atleast 7 riders currently that are ahead of him in So Cal standings that if I owned a horse I can honestly say I would have him ride before one of those guys. This one's a mystery...
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:37 AM
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I've been watching Richard Migliore ride since the high days when John Kimmel was in, and for the life of me I can't figure out why he doesn't get more quality mounts. I counted atleast 7 riders currently that are ahead of him in So Cal standings that if I owned a horse I can honestly say I would have him ride before one of those guys. This one's a mystery...
You are right, to many it is somewhat of a "mystery" so to speak. There are plenty of people who feel like you do. But there is a unique dynamic that exists in this game, specifically, in that side of the game. It's not always owners though. I won't get into all the details, but I don't always make the decision as to who rides. OTOH, I haven't owned any top stakes winning horses. But I know plenty of people who have and do. There is a lot that goes into that whole process, most of which might not count for squat, LOL.

Regardless, with trainers, they use certain kind of jocks on certain kind of horses, and with top horses, they must make every call count. It could be their last, LOL. They have preconceived notions, prejudices, etc. just like everyone.

Doesn't matter -- Richie is a guy who should get more quality mounts. It isn't for a lack of passion, desire, ability or work ethic. And, the guy is truly a student of the game.

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Old 07-15-2008, 05:10 PM
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There's a rumor floating that Richard will be analyst on the NYOTB show from Saratoga. Just a rumor.....
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