7/12 (HOL): Swaps (Gr. II)

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Originally Posted by SilverRP

To whoever had this horse winning, could you please give me some insight as to how you had this horse on top??

his third in the highly rated arkansas derby was right there with the others, and he out tripped the other two horses, heard to believe he was 11/1 given the relatively minor merritts of this field. I didn't bet him but he was not impossible.

[Bobby Fischer]

worst animal in the race overall, less awful on synthetic than dirt, well suited to the speed-bias but inferior to the #2 in speed , exiting race 2nd to the #2 in speed,

needed scenario: if outbreaks the #2 has a chance to wire the field

hindsight: or of course, if col. john overcompensates for tracke bias, #2 doesn't break well and col.john/#2 battle wide entering stretch, giving Tres Borachos the rail ...
then yah


to be honest there wasn't really a good case to be made for playing that race at all. someone could have guessed the exact odd scenario and it still wasn't worth playing that race.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Same old T BAZE. He is world-class on mediocre horses that don't figure. I would donate $100 right now to a fund to pay his a-s-s to go ride elsewhere. He will bring your single in 2nd, and then the next race(you go three deep) and that lil bitch will get the 4th or 5th best horse to produce. Then he will smile like he's gettin' blown.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Same old T BAZE. He is world-class on mediocre horses that don't figure. I would donate $100 right now to a fund to pay his a-s-s to go ride elsewhere. He will bring your single in 2nd, and then the next race(you go three deep) and that lil bitch will get the 4th or 5th best horse to produce. Then he will smile like he's gettin' blown.

LOL! Same feelings here. He has done that to me one too many times.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

LOL! Same feelings here. He has done that to me one too many times.

I had Tres Borrachos as a horse to watch today, but me and a couple of my friends got drunk and I forgot to go bet him.


(seriously, I've watched that horse for some time now, and not surprised at all he apparently did well.....just P.O'd at myself for not showing up today, I guess)

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

I had Tres Borrachos as a horse to watch today, but me and a couple of my friends got drunk and I forgot to go bet him.


(seriously, I've watched that horse for some time now, and not surprised at all he apparently did well.....just P.O'd at myself for not showing up today, I guess)

Perfect horse for you and your friends. Should have bet him on his name alone.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Perfect horse for you and your friends. Should have bet him on his name alone.

I'd like to think you are making an attempt at humor.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

I had Tres Borrachos as a horse to watch today, but me and a couple of my friends got drunk and I forgot to go bet him.


(seriously, I've watched that horse for some time now, and not surprised at all he apparently did well.....just P.O'd at myself for not showing up today, I guess)

The horse is just o.k. Pretty much the same mediocre stuff that won the 6th, and 8th on Friday Night. Seems like whoever lays just 2-4 lengths off the pace has got some kinda force field helping them. Just rate some stopping speed n' all the sudden they got a shot right now. Tyler figured this out. He works a lot of horses in the a.m. Knows the track bias(if there is one.) I mean he is really the definition of a parasite. I can see my own blood on that bitch's mouth( and I didn't even bet today.)

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The horse is just o.k. Pretty much the same mediocre stuff that won the 6th, and 8th on Friday Night. Seems like whoever lays just 2-4 lengths off the pace has got some kinda force field helping them. Just rate some stopping speed n' all the sudden they got a shot right now. Tyler figured this out. He works a lot of horses in the a.m. Knows the track bias(if there is one.) I mean he is really the definition of a parasite. I can see my own blood on that bitch's mouth( and I didn't even bet today.)

Even classier. One more and you get Hollywood park steak knives!

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Same old T BAZE. He is world-class on mediocre horses that don't figure. I would donate $100 right now to a fund to pay his a-s-s to go ride elsewhere. He will bring your single in 2nd, and then the next race(you go three deep) and that lil bitch will get the 4th or 5th best horse to produce. Then he will smile like he's gettin' blown.

Classy post. Honor to be part of this forum!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Classy post. Honor to be part of this forum!

Classy? You're the mouthpiece for a circuit that does very little to actually punish trainers in any meaningful way. Exactly how many times has Cerin had a major infraction in the last 10 years? Gotta be atleast 6. There is no class involved with this circuit. Look at the 4th race Friday Night. Look at the stretch run of that race. Do you think, if Julien Couton had been on the winner of that race, the stewards (and the 2nd place Jockey) would have ignored what took place? No, sir. If Gomez wasn't on the winner, then they would of atleast told the crowd that there was an inquiry. In the last 3 years, how many times has Gomez been taken down by the stewards on this circuit? Very few. There's a whole lot of overlooking what certain trainers and jocks do on this circuit. Some trainers have 4 -6 major infractions, and are still going about their business as if they never did anything wrong. Espinoza can hardly win an inquiry, and Gomez rarely loses one(now they aren't even calling inquiries when he comes over to keep a horse with more run from going by.) Your getting a paycheck regardless of what takes place. Your interest is best served by making it appear every jock, trainer, steward etc. is doing the right thing. They aren't. They aren't classy. They break the rules repeatedly. They overlook infractions based on who the trainer/ jock in question is. So, you can keep acting like it's a "classy" circuit, but the majority on here aren't stupid enough to believe you. Sure, they will attack me, and prop you up, because you are on T.V. sometimes. They like talking to people they think are insiders etc., but they aren't stupid enough to think the circuit is "classy." There is a huge conflict of interest in having people on forums that are getting a paycheck from the industry involved. Your financial interests are best served by quieting any criticism of the sport. There is a lot of that conflict of interest involved with a horseracing forum.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Classy? You're the mouthpiece for a circuit that does very little to actually punish trainers in any meaningful way. Exactly how many times has Cerin had a major infraction in the last 10 years? Gotta be atleast 6. There is no class involved with this circuit. Look at the 4th race Friday Night. Look at the stretch run of that race. Do you think, if Julien Couton had been on the winner of that race, the stewards (and the 2nd place Jockey) would have ignored what took place? No, sir. If Gomez wasn't on the winner, then they would of atleast told the crowd that there was an inquiry. In the last 3 years, how many times has Gomez been taken down by the stewards on this circuit? Very few. There's a whole lot of overlooking what certain trainers and jocks do on this circuit. Some trainers have 4 -6 major infractions, and are still going about their business as if they never did anything wrong. Espinoza can hardly win an inquiry, and Gomez rarely loses one(now they aren't even calling inquiries when he comes over to keep a horse with more run from going by.) Your getting a paycheck regardless of what takes place. Your interest is best served by making it appear every jock, trainer, steward etc. is doing the right thing. They aren't. They aren't classy. They break the rules repeatedly. They overlook infractions based on who the trainer/ jock in question is. So, you can keep acting like it's a "classy" circuit, but the majority on here aren't stupid enough to believe you. Sure, they will attack me, and prop you up, because you are on T.V. sometimes. They like talking to people they think are insiders etc., but they aren't stupid enough to think the circuit is "classy." There is a huge conflict of interest in having people on forums that are getting a paycheck from the industry involved. Your financial interests are best served by quieting any criticism of the sport. There is a lot of that conflict of interest involved with a horseracing forum.

Total hogwash.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Total hogwash.

Well, if I was you, I would go rhetorical as well. That being said, the fact is you have a conflict of interest (when writing about the industry that pays your paycheck.) That's simply a fact. It's a fact with more than a few on here. Now lets return to the whether it's a classy circuit. There are some issues there I wrote about. So, go ahead and tell us why certain trainers with 6 violations are still training. Why Garrett Gomez rarely loses an inquiry on this circuit. Why the stretch run in the 4th race Friday Night didn't even have an inquiry involved etc. Don't you realize people can see which horse has more run? They know why a horse with more run doesn't go by. It almost always has to do with a horse shifting out to do exactly what that Sadler horse did in the 4th race Friday Night. I don't care financially about the outcome of that race. I just know the horse with more run was kept from going by, and it was ignored for various poor reasons(the main one being a very popular jockey on the winner.) Then, when one of the commentators on TVG stated that it(not having an inquiry) showed inconsistency, he was attacked by a fellow commentator who was working at Los AL. It's like a little cult that punishes those who don't back the authority involved. He(the guy at Los Al) also used no facts. He attacked rhetorically(basically like a cult member telling another cult member to quickly move on.)