Cleveland Indians

[The Bid]

If Hafner going down ruins a teams chances at the playoffs you dont have much of a team. So what, Carmona is hurt, we cant do an better than Sowers? A few nights ago Sowers looked like he was throwing batting practice. I was eating a steak at outback and almost choked watching him throw 85MPH meatballs down the middle of the plate to the heart of Detroits lineup.

Besides poor Cliff Lee the indians entire pitching staff should be sent down. Every single one of them

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Originally Posted by The Bid

If Hafner going down ruins a teams chances at the playoffs you dont have much of a team. So what, Carmona is hurt, we cant do an better than Sowers? A few nights ago Sowers looked like he was throwing batting practice. I was eating a steak at outback and almost choked watching him throw 85MPH meatballs down the middle of the plate to the heart of Detroits lineup.

Besides poor Cliff Lee the indians entire pitching staff should be sent down. Every single one of them

Well the thing with their pitiful excuse is ..so what if Westbrooks and Carmona were not hurt? How much better would we be with this pathetic line up and bullpen? Their era's were over 3.00. They weren't doing Cliff Lee.Hafner hasn't hit for well over a year. He picked up right from where he left off in the playoffs.Martinez--ok....he would help if not hurt.....but how much difference would one guy make?

If those 4 were not hurt I don't see us being better than maybe 7 game under instead of the ...15? or so we are now.....at best.

[Mortimer]

I have to say that Livingston's columns are to die for lately.




He called Shapiro The Sultan of Squat.

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....uh...how can you with a straight face pencil in r2d2 for your line up?...

...they can't possibly be showcasing him......so someone is insane....

[The Bid]

Its pathetic

This team couldnt get the 87 team out of a jog. Can you imagine what Carter, Snyder, Bando, Thorton, Jacoby, Butler, Tabler, Franco, would have done to this squad of zeros

Not to mention the Candy Man, Swindell, and those couple other geezers that team sent out every 5 days

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Its pathetic

This team couldnt get the 87 team out of a jog. Can you imagine what Carter, Snyder, Bando, Thorton, Jacoby, Butler, Tabler, Franco, would have done to this squad of zeros

Not to mention the Candy Man, Swindell, and those couple other geezers that team sent out every 5 days

Oh I agree...those guys would do much better than this team right now.

And think how much better they would do if they were still playing baseball!

[The Bid]

POSITION PLAYERS

C Chris Bando Kelly Shoppach
1B Joe Carter Ryan Garko
2B Tony Bernazard Jamie Carrol
3B Brook Jacoby Casey Blake
LF Mel Hal Ben Fransisco
CF Brett Butler Grady Sizemore
RF Cory Snyder Shin Shoo Choo
DH Pat Tabler Jeorge Valendia

The only player the Indians had in 87 that would fit this years pathetic team is Earnie the "macho man" Camacho. He was also like a molotav cocktail

[Mortimer]

How about this?

We have only one guy who you can say is a legitimate 4 hitter.



That's the AL hr leader---Sizemore.

And he hits LEAD OFF!!








DOUGH!!!