Cubs get HARDEN

[Cannon Shell]

Harden has pitched 277 innings the last 4 years. He has made 13, 4, 9, 19 starts the last 4 years. He makes 4 million this year, 1/2 of what has already been paid. Gaugin makes 1.7 million 1/2 of which was already paid. This is more a case of selling high than a salary dump considering he wasnt making much anyway. He wasnt going to be considered a class A free agent so the draft pick they would receive for him would not be that great anyway. There is no way that Beane was goign to re-sign this guy for big money (and he shouldnt)anyway and unless you are delusional, they wont be WS contenders next year either.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Harden has pitched 277 innings the last 4 years. He has made 13, 4, 9, 19 starts the last 4 years. He makes 4 million this year, 1/2 of what has already been paid. Gaugin makes 1.7 million 1/2 of which was already paid. This is more a case of selling high than a salary dump considering he wasnt making much anyway. He wasnt going to be considered a class A free agent so the draft pick they would receive for him would not be that great anyway. There is no way that Beane was goign to re-sign this guy for big money (and he shouldnt)anyway and unless you are delusional, they wont be WS contenders next year either.

As long as this guy is around, then the A's can't get to the World Series. They could get to the playoffs, but not to the World Series. You say who picked them to win anything this year? I picked them to win their division. They are 5 out of the division, and 3 1/2 out of the Wild Card. They are 8 games above .500. I think it's too early to toss in the towel. Your whole fck the fans thing is great if these moves ever pay off. They don't. They just keep them decent, but never above that. What you're really saying is that A's fans are suckers for coming out, because this whore keeps getting rid of his good players. I'm in the middle. You support extremes routinely. I was against the Andruw singing because it was obvious he had lost ability, and there was zero value paying him that to hit .220( as we see he can't even do that.) I also am against the opposite extreme of simply never wanting to pay good players. The Cubs and Cards are getting value for their money. The Dodgers and Yankees don't get value for their money, and that's why they are where they are at. Boston is paying an awful lot, and getting their moneysworth, but they also are very lucky this century( with free agents.) I don't know what you're talking about when you say they would get nothing for Harden (if he got hurt.) He has given them their moneysworth. They are paying him a low 4-5 million. That's inexpensive enough that they should of let him play until the middle of next season before cashing out like whores. I don't think you value fans much, and maybe that's the reason Oakland has the problems with finances that they do. There are only so many people willing to be masochists. That's what an A's fan would have to be. Yea, so what if Harden got hurt? It's not like they got anything for him. You're missing that part. The Gallagher is not getting past 5-6 innings, and routinely throws 111-120 in those short amount of innings. Means he has not got the accuracy he needs to get it done. For this they give up Harden n' Gaudin? Gaudin wasn't mop up in the summer of 2006. He is gunna help the Cubs.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Take a long time before you get back your G.M. CHUCK title. When Andruw retires, then out of sight out of mind. Until then, your pulling that fatboy's sled. You say buy low sell hi? What is that there signing you encouraged? Buy sh-t pay hi? I don't bring it up out of choice. I watch this sh-t whif a couple times a game. Be happy you don't have to see it.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Take a long time before you get back your G.M. CHUCK title. When Andruw retires, then out of sight out of mind. Until then, your pulling that fatboy's sled. You say buy low sell hi? What is that there signing you encouraged? Buy sh-t pay hi? I don't bring it up out of choice. I watch this sh-t whif a couple times a game. Be happy you don't have to see it.

This might be one of my favorite posts of all time

Gaudin was just warming up, bringing in Marmol instead

[SCUDSBROTHER]

So far, Hudson on his way to no-hitting the Dodgers.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

So far, Hudson on his way to no-hitting the Dodgers.

Yeah and Lowe is no hitting the Braves

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

This might be one of my favorite posts of all time

Gaudin was just warming up, bringing in Marmol instead

Dont let Scuds fool you, Gaudin is not a star. he may be the 5th best RP the cubs have.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont let Scuds fool you, Gaudin is not a star. he may be the 5th best RP the cubs have.

No, he isn't a star, but the Cubs will get good spot pitching from him.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Made a mistake to Kemp...Crushed it.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont let Scuds fool you, Gaudin is not a star. he may be the 5th best RP the cubs have.

I get to see Harden's first two starts live, this Saturday and in AZ on Monday (also the unveiling of the Soto jersey)

Hopefully he makes it to his 2nd start with the way you guys are talking

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

I get to see Harden's first two starts live, this Saturday and in AZ on Monday (also the unveiling of the Soto jersey)

Hopefully he makes it to his 2nd start with the way you guys are talking

If Gallagher gets any good, you can make a deal with these whores to get him right back. So, I don't see the risk in the deal. Harden's salary for the next season n' a half will be paid in one homestand's beer concessions. If Harden gets hurt before the deadline, then these whores will probably give up Duscherer to ya as well. They don't want to sign him for 2010(although these liars claim they are building for a great 2010,) and it's obvious they don't care about 2008/9.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

As long as this guy is around, then the A's can't get to the World Series. They could get to the playoffs, but not to the World Series. You say who picked them to win anything this year? I picked them to win their division. They are 5 out of the division, and 3 1/2 out of the Wild Card. They are 8 games above .500. I think it's too early to toss in the towel. Your whole fck the fans thing is great if these moves ever pay off. They don't. They just keep them decent, but never above that. What you're really saying is that A's fans are suckers for coming out, because this whore keeps getting rid of his good players. I'm in the middle. You support extremes routinely. I was against the Andruw singing because it was obvious he had lost ability, and there was zero value paying him that to hit .220( as we see he can't even do that.) I also am against the opposite extreme of simply never wanting to pay good players. The Cubs and Cards are getting value for their money. The Dodgers and Yankees don't get value for their money, and that's why they are where they are at. Boston is paying an awful lot, and getting their moneysworth, but they also are very lucky this century( with free agents.) I don't know what you're talking about when you say they would get nothing for Harden (if he got hurt.) He has given them their moneysworth. They are paying him a low 4-5 million. That's inexpensive enough that they should of let him play until the middle of next season before cashing out like whores. I don't think you value fans much, and maybe that's the reason Oakland has the problems with finances that they do. There are only so many people willing to be masochists. That's what an A's fan would have to be. Yea, so what if Harden got hurt? It's not like they got anything for him. You're missing that part. The Gallagher is not getting past 5-6 innings, and routinely throws 111-120 in those short amount of innings. Means he has not got the accuracy he needs to get it done. For this they give up Harden n' Gaudin? Gaudin wasn't mop up in the summer of 2006. He is gunna help the Cubs.

Your arguement is lame. Beane is selling the guy while he is healthy and getting back a good prospect in Gallagher. Gallagher is 22. Do you know how many 22 year olds are pitching in the majors and doing well? About 5. Gallagher has neither a high walk rate or high BA against. How many innings should he be pitching. He was 27-12 in the minors with a 2.70 era as a 18-21 year old. he has never had a high walk rate. There is no guarantees that he will become John Danks next year but thats what happens with young pitchers.
"So what if he gets hurt?" That makes you a great GM...The guy ALWAYS gets hurt. He has pitched one complete season out of 6 seasons. he is a ticking time bomb. They get a possible number 3 or 2 starter who is 22 and Murton who may still be ok for a guy who the last 3 years has started 25 games and a mop up guy. That just doesnt seem too bad. As a matter of fact there is a better chance of those 2 guys helping the A's than the other 2 did. Gaudin was a mop up man for a reason. Because the A's have a bunch of pitchers that are better than him. Gallagher's best may never be equal to Harden's best but there is a strong chance that we dont see much of Harden's best.
I said that the signing of Jones by the Dodgers was a good move because they didnt have to sign him long term. He was terrible and got hurt. At least they dont have to pay him past next year. It was still an acceptable risk.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your arguement is lame. Beane is selling the guy while he is healthy and getting back a good prospect in Gallagher. Gallagher is 22. Do you know how many 22 year olds are pitching in the majors and doing well? About 5. Gallagher has neither a high walk rate or high BA against. How many innings should he be pitching. He was 27-12 in the minors with a 2.70 era as a 18-21 year old. he has never had a high walk rate. There is no guarantees that he will become John Danks next year but thats what happens with young pitchers.
"So what if he gets hurt?" That makes you a great GM...The guy ALWAYS gets hurt. He has pitched one complete season out of 6 seasons. he is a ticking time bomb. They get a possible number 3 or 2 starter who is 22 and Murton who may still be ok for a guy who the last 3 years has started 25 games and a mop up guy. That just doesnt seem too bad. As a matter of fact there is a better chance of those 2 guys helping the A's than the other 2 did. Gaudin was a mop up man for a reason. Because the A's have a bunch of pitchers that are better than him. Gallagher's best may never be equal to Harden's best but there is a strong chance that we dont see much of Harden's best.
I said that the signing of Jones by the Dodgers was a good move because they didnt have to sign him long term. He was terrible and got hurt. At least they dont have to pay him past next year. It was still an acceptable risk.

No, Andruw didn't get hurt. He looks exactly the same as he did before the surgery. He was gunna have it done after the season, but Joe begged him to have the surgery in early June. I ain't kid'n. Anything to get him out of the game.....BTW LOWE perfect game thru 6. Dodgers got just 1 hit against Hudson(one of them Oakland pitchers that is not that good anymore..lol.)