Cubs get HARDEN

[Scav]

Scuds, the Cubs didn't give up much in this deal. Patterson is GARBAGE, he is no better then his brother, except he is horrible at defense, Murton is servicable, and should get his shot to prove his so-called abilities now, I was never sold, and Gallagher is 'promising'. Cubs have the best doctors out there, HELL, they got Kerry Wood's shoulder to just magically heal, they might do wonders with Harden. And also, just imagine the psyche of Harden now, he knows he pitches well this year, that he will get PAID from the Cubs, he will get #1 type money and not have to be a #1.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

Scuds, the Cubs didn't give up much in this deal.

A's sure didn't get any proven talent, and they gave up a lot of proven talent. The A's want to get guys that have about 5 years until they have to pay them well. They love that. They gather them up and what they almost always get is some of the pitchers flourish in that pitcher's park. What they don't get on the cheap is enough playoff quality hitting to go anywhere special. They try to buy it with free agent gambles, and it rarely works(except for 2006.) Even in 2006, in the playoffs, once Thomas slumped, they had nowhere else to go. Their other playoff quality hitter did well(Bradley,) but their Walmart shopper hitters (their 500k a year types ) were flops at the plate. The main thing is that this guy running the show is filth. Treats underlings like crap, and has no loyalty. He will never get rings. So, that bitch can keep thinking he is doing something special, but he isn't. He keeps going nowhere, and is so proud that they are close to being something. No, you aren't close to being anything. Every time you get something you give it away, and then fkn lie n' say ya ain't selling. Your selling. You're a whore. Anything special you have is given away for not much. That's a whore. He's already folding up tent on the year(before the Allstar break.) Were they gunna win the Wild Card? After seeing them win practically every game in August 2006, I wouldn't of counted them out yet. The thing is that this whore is in such a hurry to move on to the future. If you think this guy has winning a ring on his mind, then you are insane. He never makes moves to do that. He gets a cheap team that plays decently, and nothing more. There is no maybe. They make no effort to gather enough talent to get a ring.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

A's sure didn't get any proven talent, and they gave up a lot of proven talent. The A's want to get guys that have about 5 years until they have to pay them well. They love that. They gather them up and what they almost always get is some of the pitchers flourish in that pitcher's park. What they don't get on the cheap is enough playoff quality hitting to go anywhere special. They try to buy it with free agent gambles, and it rarely works(except for 2006.) Even in 2006, in the playoffs, once Thomas slumped, they had nowhere else to go. Their other playoff quality hitter did well(Bradley,) but their Walmart shopper hitters (their 500k a year types ) were flops at the plate. The main thing is that this guy running the show is filth. Treats underlings like crap, and has no loyalty. He will never get rings. So, that bitch can keep thinking he is doing something special, but he isn't. He keeps going nowhere, and is so proud that they are close to being something. No, you aren't close to being anything. Every time you get something you give it away, and then fkn lie n' say ya ain't selling. Your selling. You're a whore. Anything special you have is given away for not much. That's a whore. He's already folding up tent on the year(before the Allstar break.) Were they gunna win the Wild Card? After seeing them win practically every game in August 2006, I wouldn't of counted them out yet. The thing is that this whore is in such a hurry to move on to the future. If you think this guy has winning a ring on his mind, then you are insane. He never makes moves to do that. He gets a cheap team that plays decently, and nothing more. There is no maybe. They make no effort to gather enough talent to get a ring.

You could surely say that he didnt get enough for the 2 guys that he gave up but it is a classic case of selling high in the case of Harden. The guy is hurt so much you arent going to get a really top prospect. The truth is that because the club will have an option for next year, Hendry is off the hook if Harden gets hurt as he can just release him without being on the hook for any of the money. If he pitches well then the guy is a genius. It is really a no lose for the Cubs unless Murton turns it around (which is not that much of a stretch and/or Gallagher turns into an ace(which is more of a stretch) and Harden gets hurt (because if he doesnt he is very good but that is really hard to believe he wont) and Gaudin finds pitching home games at Wrigley and a bunch of away games at Milwaukee and Houston a lot less appealing than home games at Oakland and road games in Seattle and Anaheim.

You may think Beane is an idiot(of course you would be incorrect) or a bad guy but he simply does not make many mistakes. Oakland regularly has had a contender and has regularly had to revamp the roster and yet continues to never bottom out. That he is playing for 2010 when he will have a boatload of top prospect ready a la Tampa is hardly a bad move. You do understand that he works for someone else who pays the bills right? That Oakland is not a big market and is at a competitive disadvantage and has to be creative? Imagine if he had done what you propose and kept Zito, and Giambi, and Hudson , and Mulder and Giambi (the other one), etc? That would be a ****, over the hill, giant salary team going nowhere. If you want to say that he should have gotten better players, fine. But there is no doubt that the guy knows what he is doing, unlike your guys in LA.