Favre...gimme a break

Bigsmc · #1 07-08-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

$12 million, they have room for it; but that is a lot of $

If they have the room, I would think it would be a no brainer. A guy that you know can get you to the playoffs vs. the great unknown.

Wishy-washy personality aside, he is your best bet to get into the playoffs and possibly make a NYG-like run.

If they had to cut $12 million in contracts, then you would have to assess it a lot closer and probably release him.

GBBob · #2 07-08-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

If they have the room, I would think it would be a no brainer. A guy that you know can get you to the playoffs vs. the great unknown.

Wishy-washy personality aside, he is your best bet to get into the playoffs and possibly make a NYG-like run.

If they had to cut $12 million in contracts, then you would have to assess it a lot closer and probably release him.

No..they're like $25 Million under
Youngest team in the NFL (pretty sure), second youngest with Favre

wiphan · #3 07-08-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

If they have the room, I would think it would be a no brainer. A guy that you know can get you to the playoffs vs. the great unknown.

Wishy-washy personality aside, he is your best bet to get into the playoffs and possibly make a NYG-like run.

If they had to cut $12 million in contracts, then you would have to assess it a lot closer and probably release him.

You are probably right, but then what do you do with A-Rodgers? It is a no win situation for the packers. Do you screw the future and the direction of the franchise for this year and for Farve again? If so, you need to trade Rodgers most likely? If not and Farve goes on to have another great year you look terrible or if Rodgers gets hurt or plays like crap you look horrible. Favre just put the packers in a bad situation by doing this. They have all the room in the world to keep him on the roster it just really screws things up.

Also, in the past Favre made ok wide receivers great, now I think we have a great group of Wide Receivers and they are helping to make Favre look better. If and it is a big if, Rodgers is the real deal and stays healthy you could actually see a better more reliable offense than with Favre.

Scav · #4 07-08-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

You are probably right, but then what do you do with A-Rodgers? It is a no win situation for the packers. Do you screw the future and the direction of the franchise for this year and for Farve again? If so, you need to trade Rodgers most likely? If not and Farve goes on to have another great year you look terrible or if Rodgers gets hurt or plays like crap you look horrible. Favre just put the packers in a bad situation by doing this. They have all the room in the world to keep him on the roster it just really screws things up.

Also, in the past Favre made ok wide receivers great, now I think we have a great group of Wide Receivers and they are helping to make Favre look better. If and it is a big if, Rodgers is the real deal and stays healthy you could actually see a better more reliable offense than with Favre.

NFL is a now league, when you have the pieces you have to go for it. Look at the Bears for example, if they had any other QB then Grossman in the Super Bowl, they would have smoked Indy. Hell, if STEVE WALSH was the QB they would have won that game, albeit it would have been close. Look at the Bears now, two years removed, they will struggle to win 8 games, let alone make the playoffs.

#5 07-08-2008, 10:21 AM

I don't think Rodgers is the future. And selecting Brohm in the second round tells me the Packers front office doesn't either.

Bring Favre back, trade Rodgers and hand the team over to Brohm in two years.

Mortimer · #6 07-08-2008, 10:30 AM

This is what happens when you make a God out of a human.

Especially one who throws lots of interceptions....that no one notices.

#7 07-08-2008, 10:33 AM

No this is what happens when you have a hall of fame quarterback retire and you're left with a guy that works in the off-season as a china doll in a thrift store.

GPK · #8 07-08-2008, 11:56 AM

More importantly....when is Avery Smartman coming out of retirement?

GBBob · #9 07-08-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

No this is what happens when you have a hall of fame quarterback retire and you're left with a guy that works in the off-season as a china doll in a thrift store.

Well..actually he has spent the last 3 off seasons in GB learning the system and working out. This is HIS team now, not Favres's.

IF...and that's a huge IF considering who he is replacing, Rodgers stays healthy (and Favre doesn't come back):

1) GB will make the playoffs
2) He will throw at least 25 TDs
3) His passer rating will be 90 or better
4) And he will throw picks...probably 15 or so
5) BUT..He will rush for enough yards to be in the Top 5-7 QBs running the ball

You're probably ROFLMFAO now, but I'll find this in December either way.

and Scavs...if you want to double down on the Contreras Chicken wing bet you are about to lose, be my Guest

Danzig · #10 07-08-2008, 10:31 AM

i don't think favre should take heat for retiring. he obviously felt pressure earlier to decide asap, and i guess he didn't think it thru--we all change our minds at times, and on something this important, i think he should be given a pass.

Mortimer · #11 07-08-2008, 10:33 AM

I think he should be given an interception since he keeps doing his confused state of mind act every year.

Mortimer · #12 07-08-2008, 10:34 AM

No one who has thrown as many stupid passes as he has should be in any hall of whatevah.

wiphan · #13 07-08-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think favre should take heat for retiring. he obviously felt pressure earlier to decide asap, and i guess he didn't think it thru--we all change our minds at times, and on something this important, i think he should be given a pass.

This has been going on for over 3 years. People seem to forget about this. This isn't new. When will it end? He has been given a pass by us as fans and the media more times than anyone else. No one forced him to make a decision this year. Ted Thompson begged for him to come back in McCarthy's first year as coach. Brett made his decision. His number is being retired on the first game of the year vs vikings, his locker was sent to him in MS. The packers have moved on and brett needs to do the same. He came out and told everyone he retired. I am not saying that Rodgers is the next MVP QB, etc.; but Favre is the past now. As much as I don't like it, it is time to move on.

Danzig · #14 07-09-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan

This has been going on for over 3 years. People seem to forget about this. This isn't new. When will it end? He has been given a pass by us as fans and the media more times than anyone else. No one forced him to make a decision this year. Ted Thompson begged for him to come back in McCarthy's first year as coach. Brett made his decision. His number is being retired on the first game of the year vs vikings, his locker was sent to him in MS. The packers have moved on and brett needs to do the same. He came out and told everyone he retired. I am not saying that Rodgers is the next MVP QB, etc.; but Favre is the past now. As much as I don't like it, it is time to move on.

favre still had damn good numbers the last few years, better than most of the other qb's in the league. i'm not quite sure why anyone has to 'move on'--it's football. all teams need a qb, what does it matter really if favre wants to play another year? how does it hurt anyone? hell, the pack made it to the post season last year-which is exactly what you want from your team--so how did favre staying hurt them last season? it's not as tho he is hurting his team by remaining-if the guy behind him was soooo good, he'd be the starter.