Two Bozos in one week! Helms dead..

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Sure did. But don't worry, plenty of folks will have you gloss over this to point out that he did one positive thing for kids in Africa after decades of doing his part to marginalize Blacks and gays.

People love someone who has the balls to say what they're thinking, what can you say?

Brian,
But, if you notice, only when they agree with what is being said!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Brian,
But, if you notice, only when they agree with what is being said!

It's all just so crazy to me. It's not to imply that I think that AJim is a bigot or a closet fan of nasty bigots, he's a great guy, I just don't get it.

I could see when Falwell died. He was also a huge a$shole about plenty of things, but I could at least see the redemptive value that what he was saying had to some people, but those people were ultra-conservative Christians. While I still think he was as vile and as un-Christian as a loudmouth, public Christian could possibly be, I could at least figure out why some people bought into his $hit.

This guy, on the other hand, had nothing to offer outside of being a hateful a$shole for being a hateful a$shole's sake. It should be literally impossible for anyone with even the slightest connection to reality to be able to defend him.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's all just so crazy to me. It's not to imply that I think that AJim is a bigot or a closet fan of nasty bigots, he's a great guy, I just don't get it.

I could see when Falwell died. He was also a huge a$shole about plenty of things, but I could at least see the redemptive value that what he was saying had to some people, but those people were ultra-conservative Christians. While I still think he was as vile and as un-Christian as a loudmouth, public Christian could possibly be, I could at least figure out why some people bought into his $hit.

This guy, on the other hand, had nothing to offer outside of being a hateful a$shole for being a hateful a$shole's sake. It should be literally impossible for anyone with even the slightest connection to reality to be able to defend him.

Well that's BentMahPud for ya.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Well that's BentMahPud for ya.

Well he's also a good guy from having met him -- which is what is making all of this all the more insane.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well he's also a good guy from having met him -- which is what is making all of this all the more insane.

It was you mascara what attracted him to you....no?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

It was you mascara what attracted him to you....no?

I'm glad you mentioned that, so we can finally get this over with.

There is now, officially, viewable proof that I do not wear mascara on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Oh---before ah furgit:




It should be literally impossible for anyone with even the slightest connection to reality to be able to defend him

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[Mortimer]

Dispencer...what in the hell is that?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'm glad you mentioned that, so we can finally get this over with.

There is now, officially, viewable proof that I do not wear mascara on a regular basis.



oooo

Thank you...very much.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well he's also a good guy from having met him -- which is what is making all of this all the more insane.

Oh---before ah furgit:




It should be literally impossible for anyone with even the slightest connection to reality to be able to defend him

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's all just so crazy to me. It's not to imply that I think that AJim is a bigot or a closet fan of nasty bigots, he's a great guy, I just don't get it.

I could see when Falwell died. He was also a huge a$shole about plenty of things, but I could at least see the redemptive value that what he was saying had to some people, but those people were ultra-conservative Christians. While I still think he was as vile and as un-Christian as a loudmouth, public Christian could possibly be, I could at least figure out why some people bought into his $hit.

This guy, on the other hand, had nothing to offer outside of being a hateful a$shole for being a hateful a$shole's sake. It should be literally impossible for anyone with even the slightest connection to reality to be able to defend him.

You ever spend much time in the south? Not Atlanta, not Charlotte. I mean mid size cities and smaller towns.

It is different. That is how guys like Helms, Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd got elected.

Byrd was head of his Ku Klux Klan office. His title was The Exalted Cyclops. No sh1t.

It is a different world.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You ever spend much time in the south? Not Atlanta, not Charlotte. I mean mid size cities and smaller towns.

It is different. That is how guys like Helms, Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd got elected.

Byrd was head of his Ku Klux Klan office. His title was The Exalted Cyclops. No sh1t.

It is a different world.

Bingo.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You ever spend much time in the south? Not Atlanta, not Charlotte. I mean mid size cities and smaller towns.

It is different. That is how guys like Helms, Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd got elected.

Byrd was head of his Ku Klux Klan office. His title was The Exalted Cyclops. No sh1t.

It is a different world.

I have not lived in the South and have only spent a few months in small towns in the South.

I get that it's a different world. It doesn't make it right. People stone their daughters for getting raped in other parts of the world. It doesn't make it right.

It doesn't excuse it. Not for a minute.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I have not lived in the South and have only spent a few months in small towns in the South.

I get that it's a different world. It doesn't make it right. People stone their daughters for getting raped in other parts of the world. It doesn't make it right.

It doesn't excuse it. Not for a minute.

He was elected primarily for his views on tobacco. It makes it absolutely right for the people of North Carolina. You can't fault them or Helms for the complete ineptitude of the democratic party.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He was elected primarily for his views on tobacco. It makes it absolutely right for the people of North Carolina. You can't fault them or Helms for the complete ineptitude of the democratic party.

I'm much less concerned with how he continued to get elected, because it makes plenty of sense.

I'm more concerned with how people are attempting to defend him as a person, and to defend the things he said, as if they are somehow acceptable.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'm much less concerned with how he continued to get elected, because it makes plenty of sense.

I'm more concerned with how people are attempting to defend him as a person, and to defend the things he said, as if they are somehow acceptable.

Ted Kennedy murdered a broad. I don't give a s.hit if people defend him or not.

Maybe you should care less. In the grand scheme of things Jesse Helms is meaningless to your everyday life.

[Mortimer]

Someone supply me with the names of those humans....all of them.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He was elected primarily for his views on tobacco. It makes it absolutely right for the people of North Carolina. You can't fault them or Helms for the complete ineptitude of the democratic party.

We all know why he got elected. But that makes it ok to vote for a racist and a homophobe if it's good for their state? And that makes his statements defenseable?

ok..i'll edit this. If you are/were in small town South and all you know is tobacco, or whatever puts food on your table, I doubt you care much about his views on gays, blacks or much of anything. In fact, you probably heed his message because, well, you don't know differently. But this thread started out as an indictement of what he said and stood for in human terms, and I guess I was surprised that some tried to soften that message of hatred.

And the second statement is absolutely correct

he also said Buffy the Vampire Slayer was for sissies and bull dykes.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

he also said Buffy the Vampire Slayer was for sissies and bull dykes.

Now you're getting to the root of my emotions...lol!