Two Bozos in one week! Helms dead..

[Rupert Pupkin]

Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

you do know everyone can still read the original post, right?

i didn't see evil.

but i do think he missed racist, backward looking redneck in his description.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you do know everyone can still read the original post, right?

i didn't see evil.

but i do think he missed racist, backward looking redneck in his description.

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

Yer gittin' there.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly.
And he got elected over and over. Personally I would say he
was one of the least patriotic modern day Senators ever, pure intolerance.
But at least he let you know he believed in a very diff. sort of America.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly.
And he got elected over and over. Personally I would say he
was one of the least patriotic modern day Senators ever, pure intolerance.
But at least he let you know he believed in a very diff. sort of America.

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

Well, to cover the Black press...of course.








( it's him----right?)

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Well, to cover the Black press...of course.








( it's him----right?)

I don't think Helms cared about the black press. He knew he wasn't going to get the black vote. There was no reason for him to appease the black press.

Pgardn said, "Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly."

If Pgardn is right, then Helms would not have been the kind of guy to hire a black press secretary for political reasons. He must have hired the guy because he thought he was the best guy for the job. Someone who will hire the best person for the job, regardless of race, is not a racist.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

1. Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

1. Because his voting record and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo.

And he said exactly what he felt. He did not attempt
to persuade or dissuade. He was asked numerous times on the record
after making some very intolerant statements if he wished to retract.
He wanted no retractions.

He was a senator for a very long time and the record is there for
anyone to see. I agree that racist is very over used. I have not used it.
I would say he shows a great deal of intolerance towards segments of
this Nation in a way exactly opposite of what I believe this country's
central tenets are.

And I dont think the conservative philosophy automatically implies racism
just like I dont think a liberal philosophy implies a mindless tendency to
spend money to relieve some false sense of guilt.

[Mortimer]

Dr. Whitherfork..I mean spoon...ought to have a look at this.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

1. Because his voting record and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo.

And he said exactly what he felt. He did not attempt
to persuade or dissuade. He was asked numerous times on the record
after making some very intolerant statements if he wished to retract.
He wanted no retractions.

He was a senator for a very long time and the record is there for
anyone to see. I agree that racist is very over used. I have not used it.
I would say he shows a great deal of intolerance towards segments of
this Nation in a way exactly opposite of what I believe this country's
central tenets are.

And I dont think the conservative philosophy automatically implies racism
just like I dont think a liberal philosophy implies a mindless tendency to
spend money to relieve some false sense of guilt.

Be specific. Which votes did he make which indicate intolerance towards democracy? Is his voting record much different from other conservatives? If not, do you consider most conservatives intolerant toward democracy?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

become an expert:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1871

[Mortimer]

OH MY GOD!!



NEGROES ....working BESIDE ME!!!?









THUD!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

become an expert:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1871

That article is one man's opinion. Does that particular publication have more credibility than newspapers like the Washington Post? If someone wanted a fair and unbiased opinion about Helms, would they be better of getting it from that publication or from a paper like the Washington Post?

By the way, I hardly agree with Helms on every topic and I hardly agree with many of the things that he said over the years. But overall, I wouldn't bash the guy or his career.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

a caller to larry king when helms was a guest thanked helms for 'keeping down the _______' to which helms replied 'thanks.'

[Mortimer]

Special thanks to our presidential biographer....Dannie-poo.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You don't know much about him, obviously, yet you have such a strong opinion huh? Did KYRIM steal your log in?

I thought Andrew did.


But you could be right.

[Mortimer]

Actually..I think we have found Cratos.....again.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You don't know much about him, obviously, yet you have such a strong opinion huh? Did KYRIM steal your log in?

Do you know any more about him than I do? I've read plenty of the articles about him. I'm not an expert on him.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Do you know any more about him than I do? I've read plenty of the articles about him. I'm not an expert on him.

Popkins...you're sounding like Phil,now.




You either know what you're talking about or you're GenuineCrazyLady.....I mean or you don't.