Bernardini ?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Whatever...I dont see why a weak crop couldnt have some good horses in it. For instance...the 2008 US 3 year olds...

The evidence is that they DID IT!!! You cant say I think he will do it and have it mean anything. Before they did it was nothing other than guessing. It isnt like his dam was a dirt horse or his sire was a dirt sire.


I find it interesting that the Preakness, Jim Dandy, Travers and JC Gold Cup are somehow not important races or "as important" as the ones you mentioned.

When you say that you have this special talent to distinguish talent in a horse regardless of style of racing, surface or distance it makes me wonder why the rest of us are missing this trait and that you are morphing into a cross between my friend PG and KYRIM.

If a crop has four quality horses, these days especially, then it rates as a pretty good crop. 2008 has about 1 good horse in it. What crop in the US in the last five years had four decent route horses and if there is one isnt it a good crop?

Preakness, Jim dandy and travers are all restricted races and restricted to a bunch of mutts. And the JCGC? The Jcgc lost most of its luster with the BCC. Definitely not the same race but then again wanderin boy is so much better than pentire was. And you are saying that is even in the same realm to a horse winning the epsom, king george and ARC in starts 2,3 and 4? ???????? The Arc is, in the opinion of some, one of the most important races in the world if not THE most difficult. He won it in his fourth start.

But hey, this is all subjective. If you think Bernardini was a better racehorse, then you are entitled to your opinion. I wonder how Sheikh Mo would rank them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If a crop has four quality horses, these days especially, then it rates as a pretty good crop. 2008 has about 1 good horse in it. What crop in the US in the last five years had four decent route horses and if there is one isnt it a good crop?

Preakness, Jim dandy and travers are all restricted races and restricted to a bunch of mutts. And the JCGC? The Jcgc lost most of its luster with the BCC. Definitely not the same race but then again wanderin boy is so much better than pentire was. And you are saying that is even in the same realm to a horse winning the epsom, king george and ARC in starts 2,3 and 4? ???????? The Arc is, in the opinion of some, one of the most important races in the world if not THE most difficult. He won it in his fourth start.

But hey, this is all subjective. If you think Bernardini was a better racehorse, then you are entitled to your opinion. I wonder how Sheikh Mo would rank them.

Actually I never said he was a better racehorse. I just questioned your assessment that Lammtarra would beat Bernardini. i just dont understand how you can come to that conclusion unless there were specific parameters laid down. I dont feel like rehashing the crop versus crop debate but I will say that Lammtarra didnt beat a superior group of horses much as bernardini did not beat a superior group of horses.