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Old 06-30-2008, 12:43 PM
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Dude he isn't part of history..
Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.
I respect your opinion a lot and recognize you have a great deal of knowledge about racing but jockeys aren't typically as responsible for horses failures as horses. A nice colt ran a few very smart races.. I would have loved to watch the Preakness that day instead of being so upset. It might have been a great race, maybe like the two hanging on my wall from 89?
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:59 PM
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Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.
He thought they were racing to the quarter pole. Just another over-confident ride by a jock that thinks they cant get beat no matter what.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:07 PM
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Hurry Up JAVY saw to that.
your wrong, javy appeared to be empty in that race, what was he supposed to do ? plus invasor backed that win up in giant way, coming back to win the dubai world cup and donn... no shame in that loss
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:16 PM
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your wrong, javy appeared to be empty in that race, what was he supposed to do ? plus invasor backed that win up in giant way, coming back to win the dubai world cup and donn... no shame in that loss
bernardini ran his race that day. no need to make excuses for him, he just faced a better, older horse. he certainly wasn't empty, and the jock may have ridden him a bit overconfidently. other than that, it was just invasors day to come out on top.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:19 PM
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Is it possible for someone to put his pp's up?
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:12 AM
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Is it possible for someone to put his pp's up?
http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2006/pps/..._finalists.pdf
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:20 PM
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bernardini ran his race that day. no need to make excuses for him, he just faced a better, older horse. he certainly wasn't empty, and the jock may have ridden him a bit overconfidently. other than that, it was just invasors day to come out on top.
HIS RACE ? go watch the replay, he was in a all out drive with no response turning for home, then he suddenly kicks it in, STRANGE.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:17 PM
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I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:17 PM
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I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.
you are the man !
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:24 PM
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I think Bernardini was freaking awesome. Some disagree, and that's fine. But I find it hilarious that people point to his loss to Invasor as some rightful indictment of the horse. The two of them both ran great races that day, and when watching the debacle that most likely will be this year's Classic, I'll be bummed that we don't have a horse like Bernardini in the race.
true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:26 PM
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true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.
he folded ? ? holy ****, its like ppl did not see the same race... this horse won everything in hand for fun, never ever asked to run... HE WAS NOT HIMSELF IN THE CLASSIC AND STILL RAN A DEAD GAME SECOND, FOLDED, WHAT RACE DID YOU WATCH ?
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:30 PM
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true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.
Mizzen Mast? Ouch. He did nothing of note beyond being scratched from the Big Cap and "targeting" the Met Mile, which is Frankel code for "he's done". He did beat some 17-hand horse that previously was 3rd in the Pegasus at the Meadowlands a couple of times, not to mention I Love Silver, who Point Given beat by about 10 lengths or so in the SA Derby.

He was a horrendous failure in France, though.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:34 PM
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true. No question to his talent. Its just interesting that the only time that he was tested, he folded.

The best of the horses we didnt see enough of? Hah! Ever see Candy Ride? Mizzen Mast? Lamtarra? I could go on all night about horses that fit that criteria that would have smoked bernardini.
I don't know who you're referring to with your second paragraph, because I never said he was the best of horses we didn't see enough of.

In regard to your first paragraph though, I find it funny when people say he "folded". He ran second by a length to a very good horse.

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Old 06-30-2008, 10:03 PM
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HIS RACE ? go watch the replay, he was in a all out drive with no response turning for home, then he suddenly kicks it in, STRANGE.
dude, the horse wasn't off--he beat every horse in the field but the rightful hoy. he looked much better prior to that as he wasn't facing horses the likes of invasor. he barely lost the race. he wasn't off, flat, or short--he barely lost the thing. you do no justice to him by making excuses. gimme a break. you jump on my thread, and then tell ateam he's the man--but i didn't bash the horse--he deserves credit for his run that day, it was a good one. just wasn't good enough to win.
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