Gotta love this broad

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by monipenny

If you want to change the game of horse racing then be a outspoken advocate about what ills this game and not just on message boards. Why don't you start buying some horses and selecting trainers that don't use drugs and start yelling from your soap box how your starting a precedent to cleaning the game up. Money talk$ and bull$hit walks bub. I also agree strongly with much that FGfan stated about Maggi Moss. Everyone is entitled to a fair defense and she is coming to their defense. She is also exactly what we need for the game by the way. Every horse can't be a Grade 1 winner, and most horses she runs are claimers and upper level allowance horses.

Put yourself in Maggi Moss' shoes. She wakes up monday and says I want to do something good for the game. I think I should:

A) Pull my horses from these trainers who have checkered pasts and give them to trainers who might not have such crazy win percentages as the checkered ones, but are successful.

B) Say that guys like Dutrow, Assmussen are not the problem and we should look past them and go after the testing labs instead. Then go on to instead put my energy into defending these guys.


She is choosing B. There is a lot wrong with that. Sorry if you cant see that.

One of the ways to get rid of this problem is for owners to stop sending horses to guys who juice. She chooses not to and still use them. So I dont want to hear how she is so good for the game.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Put yourself in Maggi Moss' shoes. She wakes up monday and says I want to do something good for the game. I think I should:

A) Pull my horses from these trainers who have checkered pasts and give them to trainers who might not have such crazy win percentages as the checkered ones, but are successful.

B) Say that guys like Dutrow, Assmussen are not the problem and we should look past them and go after the testing labs instead. Then go on to instead put my energy into defending these guys.


She is choosing B. There is a lot wrong with that. Sorry if you cant see that.

One of the ways to get rid of this problem is for owners to stop sending horses to guys who juice. She chooses not to and still use them. So I dont want to hear how she is so good for the game.

fwiw, stone, i agree with you completely on all of the above. plenty of clean trainers out there--if maggi's contention is that testing is flawed, isn't it amazing how it keeps tagging the same few guys?!?! what are the odds? she wants them excused, as she uses them, and doesn't want anyone pointing fingers at her-and they should be pointing directly at her and others who hire these trainers--they hire them because they want that edge, they want that win regardless of how it's obtained.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Danzig

fwiw, stone, i agree with you completely on all of the above. plenty of clean trainers out there--if maggi's contention is that testing is flawed, isn't it amazing how it keeps tagging the same few guys?!?! what are the odds? she wants them excused, as she uses them, and doesn't want anyone pointing fingers at her-and they should be pointing directly at her and others who hire these trainers--they hire them because they want that edge, they want that win regardless of how it's obtained.

Thanks.....nice to see someone out there who sees it the same way. My main point which the other two lunatics cant seem to comprehend is that she could do whole lot more for racing than blaming the test labs, defending trainers who cheat, and employing trainers with checkered pasts.

Like you said...what it comes down to is the owners. They want that edge no matter how they get it. If owners REALLY wanted to help the game they would stop sending horses to these guys. Pull there horses and give em to the Mott's, Zito's, Tagg's of the world. Guys like Dutrow,Mullins,Lake would be outta business in a matter of time. Would be nice to see guys like Jack Van Berg back in the winner's circle. With the scum removed from the game, more horses could be sent to guys like him.