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[DJARUM]

BTW gave out the 8 in the Belmont 7th, thanks Andy !!!!! As a single And the 9 in the 8th. BEaUTIFUL

[pointman]

Originally Posted by DJARUM

BTW gave out the 8 in the Belmont 7th, thanks Andy !!!!! As a single

Nice job by Andy, wish I would have seen/heard that as I would rather be 4 to 5 deep here even though I think the 1 is the one to beat in the 8th, a little nervous with the single here.

[the_fat_man]

I get a kick out of jockeys going down at the break. I mean, you'd think they'd anticipate that their mount would stumble out of the gate and be prepared for it.

This is like me riding up along cars, anticipating someone opening his door, and still getting doored.

[pointman]

Nice call on the 9 in the Belmont 8th Hooves, wish I would have heeded it.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

thanks point....

[jms62]

Pletcher lays a goose egg with his 2 yr olds... Was either even mentioned other than 1st call ???

I took Personal Good in the finale

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I get a kick out of jockeys going down at the break. I mean, you'd think they'd anticipate that their mount would stumble out of the gate and be prepared for it.

This is like me riding up along cars, anticipating someone opening his door, and still getting doored.

No it isn't.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I get a kick out of jockeys going down at the break. I mean, you'd think they'd anticipate that their mount would stumble out of the gate and be prepared for it.

This is like me riding up along cars, anticipating someone opening his door, and still getting doored.

if this wasn't meant as tongue-in-cheek then its the dumbest post ever.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

if this wasn't meant as tongue-in-cheek then its the dumbest post ever.

Why is that, JIM?

There's such a thing as ANTICIPATION in sports. If you allow for the possibility of something to happen, then you can be prepared for it when it does. Baseball players do this, for example, expecting certain pitches in certain counts. YET, this doesn't happen in horse racing? Of course, here's a sport in which jocks just can't seem to learn from their mistakes: witness the high number getting repeatedly PINCHED on the rail, going into the turn, because they're too stupid to either GUN and get the proper inside position, or take back just enough to be clear on the turn. That's why the SHUFFLE BACK is just about the most common trip note there is. (I can understand that the horse is unable to comprehend the power of DRAFTING but the real question is whether some of these jocks do, running up on heels the way they do.) Makes sense, then, that they WOULDN'T anticipate a horse stumbling at the break and thus not be prepared for it and get dumped on their ass. Thus, UNLESS a horse goes down on the break, a jock really needs to be able to stay on it.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Why is that, JIM?

There's such a thing as ANTICIPATION in sports. If you allow for the possibility of something to happen, then you can be prepared for it when it does. Baseball players do this, for example, expecting certain pitches in certain counts. YET, this doesn't happen in horse racing? Of course, here's a sport in which jocks just can't seem to learn from their mistakes: witness the high number getting repeatedly PINCHED on the rail, going into the turn, because they're too stupid to either GUN and get the proper inside position, or take back just enough to be clear on the turn. That's why the SHUFFLE BACK is just about the most common trip note there is. (I can understand that the horse is unable to comprehend the power of DRAFTING but the real question is whether some of these jocks do, running up on heels the way they do.) Makes sense, then, that they WOULDN'T anticipate a horse stumbling at the break and thus not be prepared for it and get dumped on their ass. Thus, UNLESS a horse goes down on the break, a jock really needs to be able to stay on it.

how would one prepare for a stumble in such a way as to prevent them from flying off? what keeps a rider on a horse? nothing! if it stumbles or balks hard enough then you will be sent airborne whether you anticipated it or not.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Why is that, JIM?

There's such a thing as ANTICIPATION in sports. If you allow for the possibility of something to happen, then you can be prepared for it when it does. Baseball players do this, for example, expecting certain pitches in certain counts. YET, this doesn't happen in horse racing? Of course, here's a sport in which jocks just can't seem to learn from their mistakes: witness the high number getting repeatedly PINCHED on the rail, going into the turn, because they're too stupid to either GUN and get the proper inside position, or take back just enough to be clear on the turn. That's why the SHUFFLE BACK is just about the most common trip note there is. (I can understand that the horse is unable to comprehend the power of DRAFTING but the real question is whether some of these jocks do, running up on heels the way they do.) Makes sense, then, that they WOULDN'T anticipate a horse stumbling at the break and thus not be prepared for it and get dumped on their ass. Thus, UNLESS a horse goes down on the break, a jock really needs to be able to stay on it.

The problem with your argument is this, Fat Man. A bicycle is a 60 pound inanimate object, whereas a horse is a 1200 pound animal with a mind of it's own. They don't stop and start on a dime, nor do they always make moves that are anticipatory. When a horse bucks, or stumbles, the rider usually has no time to prepare for it.

When you actually try riding a horse yourself you'll find this out and perhaps your rationalization will change.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by philcski

The problem with your argument is this, Fat Man. A bicycle is a 60 pound inanimate object, whereas a horse is a 1200 pound animal with a mind of it's own. They don't stop and start on a dime, nor do they always make moves that are anticipatory. When a horse bucks, or stumbles, the rider usually has no time to prepare for it.

When you actually try riding a horse yourself you'll find this out and perhaps your rationalization will change.

So, who probably knows more about the 'nuances' of the game of basketball, say?

1) the star player

2) the casual player

3) the film geek, who spends 18 hours a day breaking down tape

You'd be surprised what you can get out of watching replays


Moreover, while I don't ride horses, assuming you're not galloping horses or riding in races of some sort, I do, however, ride within a peloton daily, where I'm constantly in traffic at speeds typically between 25-35 MPH. This quite nicely approximates what happens in a (large field) turf race, which very closely resembles the peloton.

My only point was that jocks need to better anticipate TROUBLE at the break. I don't think this is controversial. If you watch enough races, you see less than stellar performances by the jocks. They make the same mistakes, both technical and strategic, repeatedly. It's, then, not a major leap to assume that since they could improve in other areas, they might also be able to improve out of the gate. For example: in terms of ANTICIPATION.