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Old 06-26-2008, 11:12 PM
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lidocane and some baking soda touched to your tongue will make your whole tongue and face numb

the other day my doctor cut through my side , and it didn't even hurt after he shot it up with lidocane.

what the hell does a horse who theraputically needs lidocaine have any business running within that month?

Up the ante a little guys, stuff like this is bad for business
I have no idea about the particulars of this case but lidocaine is found in over the counter creams and gels. Steve Penrod, who is the last trainer that would ever do anything illegal, got a lidocaine positive a few years ago because the groom had used an aloe vera cream that had lidocaine in it on a filly's heels.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:24 PM
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I have no idea about the particulars of this case but lidocaine is found in over the counter creams and gels. Steve Penrod, who is the last trainer that would ever do anything illegal, got a lidocaine positive a few years ago because the groom had used an aloe vera cream that had lidocaine in it on a filly's heels.
As an aside, fairly recently, didn't a girl pass away due to overdose of lidocaine because she used skin creams often ? In other words (read the label), this lidocaine positive was the result of applying lidocaine directly to the horse.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:27 PM
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As an aside, fairly recently, didn't a girl pass away due to overdose of lidocaine because she used skin creams often ? In other words (read the label), this lidocaine positive was the result of applying lidocaine directly to the horse.
How do you know?
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:32 PM
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How do you know?
You said the lidocaine was in the aloe gel.

Here's just one link to a lidocaine overdose from topical cream.
http://www.ncsu.edu/news/dailyclips/1205/122205.htm#2
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:37 PM
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You said the lidocaine was in the aloe gel.

Here's just one link to a lidocaine overdose from topical cream.
http://www.ncsu.edu/news/dailyclips/1205/122205.htm#2
I know that it has happened before. I have no idea if this is the case with this horse
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:14 AM
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... got a lidocaine positive a few years ago because the groom had used an aloe vera cream that had lidocaine in it on a filly's heels.
wow had no idea testing was that sensative!
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