Asmussen: Lone Star positive

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by texarkana

All I'm saying is that it's been a crappier media year than most. I feel like I've been in permanent damage control mode since May.

It's not like this is anything new for Asmussen.

Right, but the problem is that once again racing is forced to be reactive because they have been far short of proactive on the drug issue for WAY too long.

[texarkana]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Right, but the problem is that once again racing is forced to be reactive because they have been far short of proactive on the drug issue for WAY too long.

I'll agree to that.

Now pass me a hit of lidocaine to get me through the rest of the week!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Right, but the problem is that once again racing is forced to be reactive because they have been far short of proactive on the drug issue for WAY too long.

you get out what you put in....


the reciprocity that states show when one sits a jockey, or when one sits a trainer, should be carried through in that a positive in one state counts as a positive on the trainer, period. this joke that dutrow is facing a first-timers penalty in kentucky has got to stop.
criminals, other than trainers, who commit a crime in one state, do not see that crime disappear from their record if they move to another state. the same thing should apply here!

[phystech]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you get out what you put in....


the reciprocity that states show when one sits a jockey, or when one sits a trainer, should be carried through in that a positive in one state counts as a positive on the trainer, period. this joke that dutrow is facing a first-timers penalty in kentucky has got to stop.
criminals, other than trainers, who commit a crime in one state, do not see that crime disappear from their record if they move to another state. the same thing should apply here!

Don't you think you are a little over the top with your "criminal" comparisions? I mean, just a little???

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by phystech

Don't you think you are a little over the top with your "criminal" comparisions? I mean, just a little???

no.

my point is that i find it absolutely ridiculous that dutrow is being treated as a first time offender, and is being given a first offender suspension in ky. if we had a nat'l body, he'd be treated as the repeat offender he is.

jeremy rose won't be able to ride anywhere while serving the six month suspension given him in delaware. when asmussen was serving his six month suspension last winter and spring, he wasn't allowed to train anywhere in the country-so why aren't drug violations 'carried over' from one jurisdiction to the next, such as in dutrows case?

if he's had past class 2 violations, this should count as #8 for instance, not as a first offense since it's his first in kentucky. it's far from his first violation.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no.

my point is that i find it absolutely ridiculous that dutrow is being treated as a first time offender, and is being given a first offender suspension in ky. if we had a nat'l body, he'd be treated as the repeat offender he is.

jeremy rose won't be able to ride anywhere while serving the six month suspension given him in delaware. when asmussen was serving his six month suspension last winter and spring, he wasn't allowed to train anywhere in the country-so why aren't drug violations 'carried over' from one jurisdiction to the next, such as in dutrows case?

if he's had past class 2 violations, this should count as #8 for instance, not as a first offense since it's his first in kentucky. it's far from his first violation.

Clenbuterol is a Class III drug rather than a Class II. So a clenbuterol positive is not considered nearly as serious as a lidocaine or mepivicaine positive.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Clenbuterol is a Class III drug rather than a Class II. So a clenbuterol positive is not considered nearly as serious as a lidocaine or mepivicaine positive.

i was using that as an example--this clenbuterol isn't his first offense with that drug-not sure if it's his first offense with a class three...my only contention is with them charging him with a first offense, since it's not his first.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I heard that Vladimir just got another positive out here in California. I'm not sure what it was for. We will find out soon enough. I'm sure you are all shocked. He hasn't had too many. LOL.