Jeremy Rose

zippyneedsawin · #1 06-25-2008, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

They have really cracked down on that. They try to make sure that the trainer does not get paid during the suspension. They will even check bank accounts sometimes. Sometimes they will stipulate that the trainer is to have no contact with the barn and they will sometimes check phone records.

Who is the "they" cracking down on this that would have the authority to do all these things to check on a trainer? I just find it hard to believe track or racing officials could gain access to phone records, bank account info, etc... I think you're probably right that an effort is being made to make sure a suspension is upheld and adhered to, I just doubt it can be examined to that extent.

zippyneedsawin · #2 06-25-2008, 05:17 AM

To me, Rose appeared to act out in anger or frustration. While it's certainly a human thing to do.. and I'm guilty of it nearly every day, there's no excuse for taking it out on the horse. I agree with the penalty. Lifetime banishment seems excessive, unless he repeats the offense in ANY WAY after he is reinstated. Either way, his name is going to be Mudd for a long while.. if not for the rest of his career.

NoLuvForPletch · #3 06-25-2008, 06:11 AM

Well the story seems to be hitting the papers today, with the suspension being handed down and all. No quotes from Shitbag Rose that I could find in any of the stories.

I hate to say it but if our friends at PETA were going to start making noise, I'm thinking today will be the day. Honestly, I wasn't aware this happened until last night when I read it on DT, so I'm sure 99.99% of the country had no idea it had occurred. They'll know today, and unfortunately today they'll be justified. Brace yourselves.

3kings · #4 06-25-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Well the story seems to be hitting the papers today, with the suspension being handed down and all. No quotes from Shitbag Rose that I could find in any of the stories.

I hate to say it but if our friends at PETA were going to start making noise, I'm thinking today will be the day. Honestly, I wasn't aware this happened until last night when I read it on DT, so I'm sure 99.99% of the country had no idea it had occurred. They'll know today, and unfortunately today they'll be justified. Brace yourselves.

I'm sure Rose was being advised by his representatives not to comment at the moment. I would expect that Team Rose will have a press conference soon showing remorse and outlining the steps he will take to avoid this happening again. This will consist of anger management, community service with animals and possibly children riding animals etc... They will state this was his 1st incident and he made a mistake etc..... Let the spin doctors get to work.

He was wrong and should just take the punishment and be quiet. This seldom happens anymore.

Kasept · #5 06-25-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Well the story seems to be hitting the papers today, with the suspension being handed down and all. No quotes from Shitbag Rose that I could find in any of the stories.

I hate to say it but if our friends at PETA were going to start making noise, I'm thinking today will be the day. Honestly, I wasn't aware this happened until last night when I read it on DT, so I'm sure 99.99% of the country had no idea it had occurred. They'll know today, and unfortunately today they'll be justified. Brace yourselves.

Hey! Good news! Not to worry... PETA's pre-occupied.. A peck of pigeons that were disrupting play at Wimbledon were shot!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slu...ters&type=lgns

ninetoone · #6 06-25-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Hey! Good news! Not to worry... PETA's pre-occupied.. A peck of pigeons that were disrupting play at Wimbledon were shot!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slu...ters&type=lgns

this post made me laugh, does that mean I'm a bad person??

Antitrust32 · #7 06-25-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Hey! Good news! Not to worry... PETA's pre-occupied.. A peck of pigeons that were disrupting play at Wimbledon were shot!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slu...ters&type=lgns

They employ two hawks to chase away birds? Do they give the hawks hourly pay or salary??

NoLuvForPletch · #8 06-25-2008, 08:19 AM

Rose has appealed and will appear again before the commission on July 22. The commission denied the 29-year-old jockey's request for a stay that would have allowed him to continue riding until the appeal is heard.

Wayne said that while Rose is suspended only in Delaware, most states will honor the suspension.

Link to story:

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/p...NEWS/806250356

I guess the appeal is "required" but what a pair of stones...Molina didn't appeal when he was suspended for kicking the horse at Philly park, did he?

slotdirt · #9 06-25-2008, 08:25 AM

Looks like somewhere around six news outlets have picked up the story, three from Delaware, one from Philly, one from Louisville, and the Bloodhorse. At least that is what my quick news-seeking skills discovered.

Habersham000 · #10 06-25-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

They employ two hawks to chase away birds? Do they give the hawks hourly pay or salary??

My college sponsored a Crow killing contest one year at school....Peta never came after the school.

SniperSB23 · #11 06-25-2008, 08:47 AM

Not a mention of this on ESPN.com while Dutrow's suspension is the top headline. Shows how irrelevant our sport is outside of the Triple Crown. Non-TC racing is like rookie league baseball to them.

Rupert Pupkin · #12 06-25-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Who is the "they" cracking down on this that would have the authority to do all these things to check on a trainer? I just find it hard to believe track or racing officials could gain access to phone records, bank account info, etc... I think you're probably right that an effort is being made to make sure a suspension is upheld and adhered to, I just doubt it can be examined to that extent.

I think it was about a year ago that Dutrow got extra days when they checked phone records and found out that he had been in contact with his barn during the suspension. The state racing boards do have some power.

As others stated, there are obviously ways around this. A trainer could borrow a cell phone. And in terms of getting paid, if a trainer was paid by cash instead of by check and if he didn't put the money in the bank, he might get away with it.

parsixfarms · #13 06-25-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think it was about a year ago that Dutrow got extra days when they checked phone records and found out that he had been in contact with his barn during the suspension. The state racing boards do have some power.

As others stated, there are obviously ways around this. A trainer could borrow a cell phone. And in terms of getting paid, if a trainer was paid by cash instead of by check and if he didn't put the money in the bank, he might get away with it.

He violated the terms of a 60 day suspension (down from an original 120 days), and they only gave him 14 days, which he then used to take a vacation with Frankel in Brazil. He essentially laughed at them.

Cannon Shell · #14 06-25-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

He violated the terms of a 60 day suspension (down from an original 120 days), and they only gave him 14 days, which he then used to take a vacation with Frankel in Brazil. He essentially laughed at them.

Your brothers in the Bar are what allows this, no?

parsixfarms · #15 06-25-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your brothers in the Bar are what allows this, no?

No, it's the folks at the NYSRWB who are political hacks and have no idea the impact that their leniency is having on the industry that they are supposed to regulate.

Cannon Shell · #16 06-25-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

No, it's the folks at the NYSRWB who are political hacks and have no idea the impact that their leniency is having on the industry that they are supposed to regulate.

Dont you think the high dollar lawyers had any influence on the hacks? I have seen that lawyers in this business usually cause uncontrollable shaking among our commissioners

parsixfarms · #17 06-25-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont you think the high dollar lawyers had any influence on the hacks? I have seen that lawyers in this business usually cause uncontrollable shaking among our commissioners

It's easy to intimidate someone who has no idea what he or she is doing, and sad to say, that's the problem with most of these political appointees.

Revidere · #18 07-01-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

He violated the terms of a 60 day suspension (down from an original 120 days), and they only gave him 14 days, which he then used to take a vacation with Frankel in Brazil. He essentially laughed at them.

And Contessa defended him on ATR.

parsixfarms · #19 07-01-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Revidere

And Contessa defended him on ATR.

I guess that might make Contessa a "jerk-off."

blackthroatedwind · #20 07-01-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I guess that might make Contessa a "jerk-off."

Well, I would defend Rose as well, and I'm clearly a jerk-off, so if the shoe fits......