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Old 06-24-2008, 02:08 PM
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They are losing that tall Euro with teh crazy hair to free agency this year, starts with a B....But yeah, they would be dominate with Dwight Howard, but there are alot of teams that would be.

You put Dwight Howard with Nocini, Deng, Derrick Rose and Gordon and you would score 130 a game
And give up 140
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:10 PM
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And give up 140
Rose/Howard/Deng play D, Noche plays lucky D
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:01 PM
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Scav's Howard is still very raw.
He has little to no post moves.

He basically cleans up missed shots
because of his atheticism. Also having
him on the court during a close game and
just fouling him after he gets a rebound????
He is a terrible FT shooter.

I really like his athleticism, but he still
is not close to what he could be as an
actual basketball player.

We have to have shooters and guys that
can defend pick and roll out high for 3's. Some of these
foreign teams have played together for a while
and they really know each other.

Wade and Carmello are the questions for me.
Is Wade in shape? I would prefer another shooter
in addition to Redd. A guy who can score long range
right off the bench.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:14 PM
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Scav's Howard is still very raw.
He has little to no post moves.

He basically cleans up missed shots
because of his atheticism. Also having
him on the court during a close game and
just fouling him after he gets a rebound????
He is a terrible FT shooter.

I really like his athleticism, but he still
is not close to what he could be as an
actual basketball player.

We have to have shooters and guys that
can defend pick and roll out high for 3's. Some of these
foreign teams have played together for a while
and they really know each other.

Wade and Carmello are the questions for me.
Is Wade in shape? I would prefer another shooter
in addition to Redd. A guy who can score long range
right off the bench.
Carmello is a question is what manner? He is an impossible matchup. He isnt there for his defense or passing. I am thinking that Wade will show up ready. We can pick the team apart all we want but outside of being thin in the middle they have all the parts.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:15 PM
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Carmello is a question is what manner? He is an impossible matchup. He isnt there for his defense or passing. I am thinking that Wade will show up ready. We can pick the team apart all we want but outside of being thin in the middle they have all the parts.
They aren't thin in the middle. Howard is a beast.....
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:24 PM
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They aren't thin in the middle. Howard is a beast.....
And if turns an ankle or gets in foul trouble...

Tim Duncan sat on the bench for 1/2 of the olympics in 2004 because the refs blew the whistle on him for looking at people wrong.

I like Bosh and Boozer is tough but neither is a true center.
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Old 06-24-2008, 04:06 PM
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And if turns an ankle or gets in foul trouble...

Tim Duncan sat on the bench for 1/2 of the olympics in 2004 because the refs blew the whistle on him for looking at people wrong.

I like Bosh and Boozer is tough but neither is a true center.

........and there is the reason NBA players struggle playing the international game. They just don't adjust to the International Ref's when early fouls are called thinking they can just play NBA ball and things will be what they are used to November-June. Spain and Greece are still very much the teams that play the international game as well as the United States because those guys grew up playing those rules and style.

They could have used another big body to combat early foul trouble but just don't have such a player on the roster.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:54 PM
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Carmello is a question is what manner? He is an impossible matchup. He isnt there for his defense or passing. I am thinking that Wade will show up ready. We can pick the team apart all we want but outside of being thin in the middle they have all the parts.
Carmelo has no idea what it takes to win
without him being the main man. He pouts
and whines. Being that Coach K. is in the sanitizer
this presents even more problems.

I dont think K knows how to handle the pro egos.
Suggested by more than a few NBA coaches, ask your
cousin about this... I would like his take if possible.
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:38 AM
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Carmelo has no idea what it takes to win
without him being the main man. He pouts
and whines. Being that Coach K. is in the sanitizer
this presents even more problems.

I dont think K knows how to handle the pro egos.
Suggested by more than a few NBA coaches, ask your
cousin about this... I would like his take if possible.
Carmello doesnt have any idea what it takes to win? Save that crap for 8th graders. He did lead his team to an NCAA Championship as a freshman. His team did win 50 games last year. He did play on the USA team that wiped the floor with everyone last summer, leading scorer in fact.
Coach K was the pick because he has no axe to grind and has the respect of everyone. I know that much already. But I will tell him that you think Carmello isnt a "winner". I'm sure he will find that rich.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:08 PM
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Carmello doesnt have any idea what it takes to win? Save that crap for 8th graders. He did lead his team to an NCAA Championship as a freshman. His team did win 50 games last year. He did play on the USA team that wiped the floor with everyone last summer, leading scorer in fact.
Coach K was the pick because he has no axe to grind and has the respect of everyone. I know that much already. But I will tell him that you think Carmello isnt a "winner". I'm sure he will find that rich.
When he is not the main man.
No distortions with my post. With Syracuse, he was the man.
And he was playing against Children. Dont even use that comparison.


What winning has he done since when it matters in the playoffs? He complains and whines. He has Iverson, the defensive MVP, and he gets taken out of his game so easily in the playoffs.
I dont give a crap about him being the leading scorer, thats probably bad.
And I will say it again. Carmello has no idea how to win if he is NOT the main man. He is a selfish child. Easily agitated and easily taken out of his game. What about this do you not agree with? You think he has poise? Have you actually watched the guy in games IN THE NBA when it matters? In the playoffs... He FOLDS. He gets frustrated and gives up. Tell me what you disagree with about Carmello in NBA games that count.

BTW I still think we will win because of superior talent.
But I think Carmello is easily replaced with someone else.
Carmello is there for the kids who have his jersey. He is
very popular. He should do great scoring when the US is up by 20 points
and he knows he has superior talent around him. He is very gifted, I will give
you that. But he is an infant as an all around basketball player and
we dont need him. Can you realistically see Carmello through his superior
ability to win pulling out a close game through sheer will in an important
NBA game and not against guys that have no way to cover him.

Coach K was picked because the NBA coaches dont want any piece of those
egos at one time.

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Rose/Howard/Deng play D, Noche plays lucky D
Rose plays d ? Deng isnt exactly Bruce Bowen. Nocioni lets the guy he is guarding score so they get the ball back quicker. Gordon has a similar philosophy.
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