Collmus or Stauffer GP 2009 (Poll)

[ateamstupid]

I don't understand why we needed two threads about something nobody seems to care about anyway.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I don't understand why we needed two threads about something nobody seems to care about anyway.

**** THE POLICE!!

[rontheman1964]

Give Chris Kotulak another chance......he can get it right; I know he can. I've heard him call the races at Fonner Park.

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Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Give Chris Kotulak another chance......he can get it right; I know he can. I've heard him call the races at Fonner Park.

oh my

[NTamm1215]

The most important question to be asked here is who cares? Why now on a question that has obviously been answered by the people who have the final opinion- the ones who do the hiring and firing?

Obviously the management at Gulfstream saw a reason to make a change, they dismissed an announcer who is colorful yet is quite prone to error, often lets his emotions get the best of him, and has more gaps in his calls than Michael Strahan does in his teeth. They hired an announcer who rarely, if ever, makes a mistake, has more experience than his predecessor and gives you as factual a race call as you'll find anywhere. There's also something to be said for maintaining an even keel during a race call and keeping it simple.

Vic seems like a nice guy and I'm glad he participates in the board.

However, lines like "cowabunga dude" and "Showing the Speed of Ruffian, the class of Lady's Secret and the Heart of Personal Ensign" along with "that's the original rags to riches" is just a little over the top in my opinion.

NT

Brokeback Kotulak.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The most important question to be asked here is who cares? Why now on a question that has obviously been answered by the people who have the final opinion- the ones who do the hiring and firing?

Obviously the management at Gulfstream saw a reason to make a change, they dismissed an announcer who is colorful yet is quite prone to error, often lets his emotions get the best of him, and has more gaps in his calls than Michael Strahan does in his teeth. They hired an announcer who rarely, if ever, makes a mistake, has more experience than his predecessor and gives you as factual a race call as you'll find anywhere. There's also something to be said for maintaining an even keel during a race call and keeping it simple.

Vic seems like a nice guy and I'm glad he participates in the board.

However, lines like "cowabunga dude" and "Showing the Speed of Ruffian, the class of Lady's Secret and the Heart of Personal Ensign" along with "that's the original rags to riches" is just a little over the top in my opinion.

NT

it is all preference, I would much rather have those lines, then the same call all the time, which is what Collmus gives ya. He has about 3 different calls, thats it

[ArlJim78]

just try to imagine all of the memorable big race calls Collmus has made.
there aren't any because when he calls a race it sounds unimportant, bland. 10K claimers or gr1's, no difference.
no doubt in my mind that they took a step backwards when they made the change.

[Indian Charlie]

Arnold Horshack.

[countrydick]

Clearly Vic is the better of the two, and he vehemently defended Gulfstream during the abortion that it has become and got fired nonetheless.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Arnold Horshack.

mr. kot-tair.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

just try to imagine all of the memorable big race calls Collmus has made.
there aren't any because when he calls a race it sounds unimportant, bland. 10K claimers or gr1's, no difference.
no doubt in my mind that they took a step backwards when they made the change.

He doesn't have memorable calls because:

1.) He hardly ever gets to announce memorable races.
2.) He doesn't throw in the gimmicky lines that Vic does (I'm not trying to bash Vic, he's obviously one of the best, just saying).

How many memorable calls does Kurt Becker have? Does that make him a worse announcer than Stauffer or Durkin or Denman? IMO, no.

[Indian Charlie]

People complaining about track callers, they've obviously never been graced by any single race call from Bill Gahr. Ghar? Gar?

I remember listening to him in the car when I had a bet and thinking how useless it all was. He was so bad, that one time he called my horse finishing third. I was so suspicious that I called one of those result lines (1980s) a few minutes later and found out that my horse had indeed won!

The day I heard my last Bill Gahr race call on KIEV, with it's compulsory Lathrop Hoffman car ads, well, that was a glorious day!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He doesn't have memorable calls because:

1.) He hardly ever gets to announce memorable races.
2.) He doesn't throw in the gimmicky lines that Vic does (I'm not trying to bash Vic, he's obviously one of the best, just saying).

How many memorable calls does Kurt Becker have? Does that make him a worse announcer than Stauffer or Durkin or Denman? IMO, no.

Becker is so much better than Collmus it isnt funny. he has crafted his style around the overall image that Keeneland is striving for, and it works. they don't want him to add any bells and whistles to the calls. Collmus seems to being trying to make the Gulfstream racing exciting with his calls, just for me it doesn't work, like it has a screachy phony quality to it.